New poll finds that 90% of Native Americans are c00ns

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i just referred to my old statistics textbook.

In to determine the current sample size to use in order to reduce the margin of error to 5% for a population of 5 million
you would have to poll a minimum of 16500 adults randomly from various locations to have an accurate outcome that representative of the whole population.

the sample formula is as follows feel free to check my math. ( I admit it may off a little)


SS= (Z^2 * (p) * (1-p)) / c^2

z = Z value (e.g. 1.96 for 95% confidence level)
p = percentage picking a choice (.5 used for sample size needed)
c= confidence interval, expressed as decimal

yes there is exact science to this. you can't just pick a random number and act like it means something.

:dwillhuh:
 

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quite the assumption. same paper who ran the poll didnt even wait an hour to try and tie the poll results into talk for a new stadium.
It's not an assumption, it's mathematics.

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I made no statement on the motives of the people who conducted the poll, or any of their other methodology. I just said 504 people is enough of a sample size to be statistically significant.
 

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It's not an assumption, it's mathematics.

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I made no statement on the motives of the people who conducted the poll, or any of their other methodology. I just said 504 people is enough of a sample size to be statistically significant.
you didnt make an assumption? you literally said "assuming"
504 people is statistically significant, assuming it was randomized enough throughout the American Indian population.
im a statistics major i know how polls work
 

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It's not an assumption, it's mathematics.

Sample Size in Statistics: How to Find it

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I made no statement on the motives of the people who conducted the poll, or any of their other methodology. I just said 504 people is enough of a sample size to be statistically significant.
For a population of 5 million it's mathematically NOT a large enough sample size.
 

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For a population of 5 million it's mathematically NOT a large enough sample size.
if truly randomized its fine. the fact that they let people who arent affiliated with tribes have a say, polling the types of folk who put down 1/16th cherokee on college applications etc, along with the paper who took the survey using it only an hour later as fuel to jumpstart the stadium funding chatter you can pretty reasonable come to the conclusion that this poll is very flawed and the paper had an agenda in mind
 

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For 95% confidence interval with a margin of error of +/- 5% in a population of 5,000,000, you only need a sample size of 384.

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The population is 5.5 million and confidence intervals when performing national censuses are always performed at 99% confidence interval. You cant do a poll at 95% interval and then apply it to data that uses a 99% interval, that throws the skew off even further.

That's like saying 99% of 99% = 99%. It's not, the interval must be consistent for the data to be valid.
 

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Ok I see you guys are going on and on about some fake ass poll.

Just looked through the comments too see if anyone has brung it up.

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