New York Rappers Get Catapulted Into Greatness With The Smallest Sample Size

[Still Benefited]

breh I made this post to a NY apologist two years ago -



Im old enough to remember shyt from the early 90s and the hate wasn't nowhere near as extensive as nikkas make it out to be. I know some heads who got pics with Ice Cube from back in the day chilling with nikkas in NYC to then turn around like a year later on that wack ass westside connection shyt crying like a little bytch because of the hate from a few people.

Muthafukkas, especially these west coast nikkas just wanna jump on the bandwagon and have shyt to say. In 40 years from now if these dudes are still alive they still gon be bitter.

Why did you take westside connection so personal when he was obviously talking about critics and haters?Oh because your from NY? Why is Cube not allowed to be offended by haters,yet you NY's can be offended by what WC said that wasn't even about you,unless the shoe fit...you had less reason to be upset than the janitor at badboy records yet strangely enough,some of yall tight.

Funny to hear this "it was just a few" and "mecca envy talk"....as if it wasn't NY's jealousy and bitterness that caused these feelings towards NY and "rivalrys" to began with....I think its safe to admit the west and south generally either had love or indifference towards the east coast....you mean to tell me all the booing rappers claim to have faced in NY,Pac hearing NY rappers get home and talk slick about the west coast was made up?you mean to tell me I didn't really hear Slick Rick talkin crazy about west coast rap in a interview?as a one time fan of Slick Rick that actually stung a little hearing it decades after the fact,fukk Slick Rick

You mean to tell me Tim Dogg,Slick Rick,and these other rappers went maverick and weren't speaking to the choir? They obviously knew there was a large enough demographic with the same feelings in NY,they certainly was going to alienate the many to cater to the views of "just a couple nikkas"

New York was hating on the west coast because we blew up and was the shyt and yall was no longer the mecca/center of attention,same way we saw a decade later when the south got the same shyt thrown at them by rappers/critics/fans.....Your right that regionalism is everywhere,but you cant compare what was our indifference to jealousy and envy you gave us for simply doing our thing

If west coasters and southeners get kicks out of kicking you while your down or gloating in your face,you cant compare the two....It goes back to the idea that a black person cant be racist...Our jokes,gloating and hating was in response,theres only one jealous bitter region and it aint west coast,midwest or the south

 

[The Fire]

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Why did you take westside connection so personal when he was obviously talking about critics and haters?Oh because your from NY? Why is Cube not allowed to be offended by haters,yet you NY's can be offended by what WC said that wasn't even about you,unless the shoe fit...you had less reason to be upset than the janitor at badboy records yet strangely enough,some of yall tight.

Funny to hear this "it was just a few" and "mecca envy talk"....as if it wasn't NY's jealousy and bitterness that caused these feelings towards NY and "rivalrys" to began with....I think its safe to admit the west and south generally either had love or indifference towards the east coast....you mean to tell me all the booing rappers claim to have faced in NY,Pac hearing NY rappers get home and talk slick about the west coast was made up?you mean to tell me I didn't really hear Slick Rick talkin crazy about west coast rap in a interview?as a one time fan of Slick Rick that actually stung a little hearing it decades after the fact,fukk Slick Rick

You mean to tell me Tim Dogg,Slick Rick,and these other rappers went maverick and weren't speaking to the choir? They obviously knew there was a large enough demographic with the same feelings in NY,they certainly was going to alienate the many to cater to the views of "just a couple nikkas"

New York was hating on the west coast because we blew up and was the shyt and yall was no longer the mecca/center of attention,same way we saw a decade later when the south got the same shyt thrown at them by rappers/critics/fans.....Your right that regionalism is everywhere,but you cant compare what was our indifference to jealousy and envy you gave us for simply doing our thing

If west coasters and southeners get kicks out of kicking you while your down or gloating in your face,you cant compare the two....It goes back to the idea that a black person cant be racist...Our jokes,gloating and hating was in response,theres only one jealous bitter region and it aint west coast,midwest or the south

 

[Knicksman20]

E-40 is a better lyricist than Biggie, I don't see how people deny this. Dudes just don't understand him, he was way advanced for his time.

Why you think Big said "I f*ck with sprinkle me, duke"?

Yeah ok

 

[FeloniousMonk]

New York was hating on the west coast because we blew up and was the shyt and yall was no longer the mecca/center of attention,same way we saw a decade later when the south got the same shyt thrown at them by rappers/critics/fans.....Your right that regionalism is everywhere,but you cant compare what was our indifference to jealousy and envy you gave us for simply doing our thing

Its like the most popular senior in high school gettin mad cuz the new sophomore is garnering all the teachers, faculty, and students attention...they still like the senior....its just all eyes on the new kid..and the new kid swag being hun trill..could careless about the shade being thrown.

They just know its fukked up..

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Yeah ok

yeah they're not even on the same level (granted I haven't given E-40 a listen since the sprinkle me days).

 

[Nomad1]

Its really sad how much new york on the minds of other regions. Yall have serious complexes. Napolean ass dudes mad the bum in their local project dontbget the shine dudes who stand out in THE MECCA do.

fukk up you stupid ass nikka. NY aint running shyt any more. Yall nikkas are the mecca of flabby and sick. @ the thought of nikkas giving a fukk about some 90s fatigue wearing miracle spiritual ass nikkas

 

[Nomad1]

Krs is the goat, period.

 

[Nomad1]

@gator_king is a solid booth poster, and this thread is an example of that. nikkas cant even properly counter his argument and use the cheap old "bubub yall nikkas are obsessed with ny".

And it's nice seeing revisionist history at its work. Now NY was a rap mecca that accepted every regions style of rap...

 

[Art Barr]

If Scarface is "sometimes" then half of the NY nikkas being mentioned in this thread are "never".

NY unarguably has the most hip hop legends... There's different levels to it though. nikkas like Jadakiss ain't seeing Face any day of the year period even though he's a legend in his own right.

Leave battling out the equation.
Which is what people with Mecca envy do.
Face would get bodied by jada.
Especially if beans could not dispense jada and brad would get bodied by siegs, too.

Other regions like to olay stoopid in some emcee shyt.
Then, try to cite bullshyt sales and other bullshyt.
Past big mike, scarface and DRO,...THERE really is no one in the south who has come out who could hold their own culturally and skillwise.

We know scarface was getting embarrassed by g rap twenty three years ago and I t would still happen to this day.


nikkaz like to conviently forget about skills in these discussions.
Which means that emcee's full skillset.

nikkaz who forget about skills have Mecca envy.
Including, issues culturally they need to get in order.
Plus, till you get it right and learn why you culturally suffer cultural disconnect.
You will always struggle and be at odds with the culture.
Regardless of how many marketing runs.
or rapper try to fool you like it is different.


Art Barr

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Leave battling out the equation.
Which is what people with Mecca envy do.
Face would get bodied by jada.
Especially if beans could not dispense jada and brad would get bodied by siegs, too.

Other regions like to olay stoopid in some emcee shyt.
Then, try to cite bullshyt sales and other bullshyt.
Past big mike, scarface and DRO,...THERE really is no one in the south who has come out who could hold their own culturally and skillwise.

We know scarface was getting embarrassed by g rap twenty three years ago and I t would still happen to this day.


nikkaz like to conviently forget about skills in these discussions.
Which means that emcee's full skillset.

nikkaz who forget about skills have Mecca envy.
Including, issues culturally they need to get in order.
Plus, till you get it right and learn why you culturally suffer cultural disconnect.
You will always struggle and be at odds with the culture.
Regardless of how many marketing runs.
or rapper try to fool you like it is different.


Art Barr

Your basis for jadakiss being a better artist than Scarface is because he could beat him in a rap battle? Rofl

I take it you're a big fan of Canibus and Papoose

This thread is about music. Scarface makes better music than Jadakiss period and has the entire 25 years they've both been around. You like to bring up sales to discredit west and southern artists for being "corporate". Jadakiss is just as corporate as Scarface and has been for over a decade, where do you get off on the bullshyt you write?

 

[Art Barr]

Your basis for jadakiss being a better artist than Scarface is because he could beat him in a rap battle? Rofl

I take it you're a big fan of Canibus and Papoose

This thread is about music. Scarface makes better music than Jadakiss period and has the entire 25 years they've both been around. You like to bring up sales to discredit west and southern artists for being "corporate". Jadakiss is just as corporate as Scarface and has been for over a decade, where do you get off on the bullshyt you write?

Being the best emcee also incorporates who is gonna rip who.
The thing is we already heard g rap embarass all of the south and west coast artist.
before the south was segregated from the west, as a region.
So, you can deflect all you want but if face went against g rap.
He is getting and already got bodied.

All the whole the south goat list is just being nice by critics to have a representative from the south.
Which easily shows that writers in the Mecca were mindful and respectful.
This whole east/west shyt started up again from cube selling out the very coast that singlehandidly aided him jn repairing and being fully culturally associated past the cultural deviation of first person content violent content in nwa.
Which is how cube via the bomb squad and ny created cube as a solo draw at the top of the rap game and as a top tier emcee.
So, cube violating and his label willing to bribe the source.
That contaminated and compromised the entire media/journalism module of the culture was compromised and never repaired.
So, guys talking all this Mecca envy bullshyt arr lead astray by a money hungry sellout ice cube.
This is how cube sold out.
Not the erroneously misjudged idea that he did movies and sold out.
Cube is not a sellout from his film endeavors.
Cube is a sellout from bribing and ruining the source and fabricating an entire east/west coast beef.

So, anybody talking that east/west shyt I not fully informed and I know so.
As I was actually live in the flesh around scoop Jackson.
listening to my lord fineese vinyl in his crib 1200.
That ks hwo I know guys are toys and were not really cognitve about this and fooled by MTV and vibe magazine.
Coupled with the prison economy industry paying to seed and market gangsta rap away from a cultural sweet spot in content.
Plus, wrongly marketing and attempting to sway gateway consumers with false information and rhetoric.
Anybody in here talking that east west coast shyt does not know the culture.

culturally when it comes to hip hop as a culture.
Face is not a goat candidate and krs already resewn the title of goat up.
with back to back classics and a classic verse on every record he features on.
When, krs was featured on survival skills.
Which put him ahead of his contemporaries in every time period.
in the history of rap and the culture of hip hop.

All the other bullshyt and things you bring up is all deflection from the fact and culture of hiphop.

That judging emcees is always gonna be about skills.
who Is can and will be choppin who neck off for real.
all the way at the end of the day.
In that face is not a threat to body anyone on the mic in a higher upper echelon at all.
Plus, it was proven close to TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO,...
As far as gangsta rap is concerned as a full encompassing genre.
Kool g rap is the best hardcore strictly gangsta Rapper and most technically proficient artist in that entire gangsta rap genre's actual history.
Plus, in the south big mike was always better than face as far back as the convicts.
Then, later big mike rapped circles around face as a geto boy, too.

nikkaz like to forget skills and that is what a toy with Mecca envy does.
Try to take hip hop away from skills and the pillars.
The same shyt cube knew better than to do.
when the source was compromised journalisitically as a cultural entity.
Only toys do that shyt and ignore all the facts in fake'n jax a culturally wack emcee does.
Then, try to prop said fake'n jax and culturally wack emcee.
Over real culturally viable and culture based artist in the culture of hiphop.


Only toys try to play all those toy ass culture thief ass games.


Art Barr

A nikka trying to argue who is better as an actual emcee jada or Scarface.
when jada is easily better than face as a skilled emcee.
Jada is more skilled and anyone who knows emcee'n knows this without any thought.
Scarface is getting bodied fukk'n with.
any body more technically proficient in the genre and culture who is a more skilled emcee.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Being the best emcee also incorporates who is gonna rip who.
The thing is we already heard g rap embarass all of the south and west coast artist.
before the south was segregated from the west, as a region.
So, you can deflect all you want but if face went against g rap.
He is getting and already got bodied.

All the whole the south goat list is just being nice by critics to have a representative from the south.
Which easily shows that writers in the Mecca were mindful and respectful.
This whole east/west shyt started up again from cube selling out the very coast that singlehandidly aided him jn repairing and being fully culturally associated past the cultural deviation of first person content violent content in nwa.
Which is how cube via the bomb squad and ny created cube as a solo draw at the top of the rap game and as a top tier emcee.
So, cube violating and his label willing to bribe the source.
That contaminated and compromised the entire media/journalism module of the culture was compromised and never repaired.
So, guys talking all this Mecca envy bullshyt arr lead astray by a money hungry sellout ice cube.
This is how cube sold out.
Not the erroneously misjudged idea that he did movies and sold out.
Cube is not a sellout from his film endeavors.
Cube is a sellout from bribing and ruining the source and fabricating an entire east/west coast beef.

So, anybody talking that east/west shyt I not fully informed and I know so.
As I was actually live in the flesh around scoop Jackson.
listening to my lord fineese vinyl in his crib 1200.
That ks hwo I know guys are toys and were not really cognitve about this and fooled by MTV and vibe magazine.
Coupled with the prison economy industry paying to seed and market gangsta rap away from a cultural sweet spot in content.
Plus, wrongly marketing and attempting to sway gateway consumers with false information and rhetoric.
Anybody in here talking that east west coast shyt does not know the culture.

culturally when it comes to hip hop as a culture.
Face is not a goat candidate and krs already resewn the title of goat up.
with back to back classics and a classic verse on every record he features on.
When, krs was featured on survival skills.
Which put him ahead of his contemporaries in every time period.
in the history of rap and the culture of hip hop.

All the other bullshyt and things you bring up is all deflection from the fact and culture of hiphop.

That judging emcees is always gonna be about skills.
who Is can and will be choppin who neck off for real.
all the way at the end of the day.
In that face is not a threat to body anyone on the mic in a higher upper echelon at all.
Plus, it was proven close to TWENTY FIVE YEARS AGO,...
As far as gangsta rap is concerned as a full encompassing genre.
Kool g rap is the best hardcore strictly gangsta Rapper and most technically proficient artist in that entire gangsta rap genre's actual history.
Plus, in the south big mike was always better than face as far back as the convicts.
Then, later big mike rapped circles around face as a geto boy, too.

nikkaz like to forget skills and that is what a toy with Mecca envy does.
Try to take hip hop away from skills and the pillars.
The same shyt cube knew better than to do.
when the source was compromised journalisitically as a cultural entity.
Only toys do that shyt and ignore all the facts in fake'n jax a culturally wack emcee does.
Then, try to prop said fake'n jax and culturally wack emcee.
Over real culturally viable and culture based artist in the culture of hiphop.


Only toys try to play all those toy ass culture thief ass games.


Art Barr

A nikka trying to argue who is better as an actual emcee jada or Scarface.
when jada is easily better than face as a skilled emcee.
Jada is more skilled and anyone who knows emcee'n knows this without any thought.
Scarface is getting bodied fukk'n with.
any body more technically proficient in the genre and culture who is a more skilled emcee.

Scarface is undebatably a more skilled musician than Jadakiss, the discographies speak to that. Jadakiss is undebatably a more technical lyricist than Scarface... This thread is not exclusively about who the best lyricist is though.

And beyond all of that, there are a lot of lyricists out west more skilled than Jadakiss who don't get half that man's due despite having better discographies for seemingly no reason other than they're not from NY. That is what this thread is about

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

nikkas arent interested in the truth or being REAL. nikkas was hating.The mecca "envy" came from NY towards others PERIOD. nikkas from other areas big upped,idolized and supported NY,how is THAT considered envy?
NY hated that nikkas was taking their light so they start hating.
nikkas dont know what they want.
First it's "dont bite"
Then it's anger cause you're not doing it enough like us.
nikkas was just mad cause they wanted all the light.
It's ironic that Run Dmc did some shyt they didnt want to do in an epic sell out move for pop success,then when nikkas like Luke and others were trying to win,they start hating like they got a problem.

East coast spit gangsta shyt,love em,see kool g. rap.
West coast spit gangsta,hate em and they only sold cause of the prison industrial complex.
on and on

 

[big bun]

NY knee grows falling back on that why you got NY on your mind/in your mouth/sucking NY dikk/y'all jealous of the Mecca shyt again...LOL.