spliz
SplizThaDon
Cause holding down an album is completely different than dropping verses. So no. Andre 3K doesn't belong as a solo artist. Outkast as a group does.
New York Rappers Get Catapulted Into Greatness With The Smallest Sample Size
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this was already said by hexagram and MLAlien, you parrotAnd they actually elaborated a bit to flesh out their thoughts.
As usual, you're incapable of contributing an original thought
This f@ggot was lurking, waiting to hop on my d!ck. If you looked I already acknowledged that @MIAlien got to the Andre point before I did. We literally made our posts at about the same time. I didn't see his post, and I didn't see the homie Hex' post either. I just read the first couple posts and decided to reply. And looked who dapped you
BodeineBrazy
hehehehehehehehehe
thats who i thought this thread was gonna be about.
Never heard about mos def situation. Is it valid?
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
It's like that for MCs in general.....
Might I add that we had to go through NY posters on
telling us that Uncle Murda had next.....Red Cafe....Maino....
We had to deal with being told this guy was going to be a massive star...
Remember when NYC posters tried to act like Ron Brownz was a super producer?
From about 2003-2010 we had to deal with any little buzz being over blown and even the most average of MCs being hyped up so NYC had something....
Might I add that we had to go through NY posters on
telling us that Uncle Murda had next.....Red Cafe....Maino....We had to deal with being told this guy was going to be a massive star...
Remember when NYC posters tried to act like Ron Brownz was a super producer?
From about 2003-2010 we had to deal with any little buzz being over blown and even the most average of MCs being hyped up so NYC had something....
JetFueledThoughts
Superstar
I mean if we're talkin like that, shouldn't we just judge strictly off of spitting then? As opposed to things like song structure..? why are we hangin on classic albums to gauge this, then getting weird when somebody brings up production?
We're either talking top artists or top rappers, and if we're talking top rappers then we should be judging the rapping, not whether somebody had a partner or not. Big Boi standing next to him shouldn't take away from the words Dre is spitting.
untaintedbeats
Pro
lol i think this everytime i see a thread like this...shameful...lolThat East Coast envy
spliz
SplizThaDon
All that needs to be said.I agree with the general point of what you're saying but a few things:
1. Even 1 classic album is a great accomplishment. Most artists in any genre of music can't say they have even one classic album. By your own admission most of your list has at least one.
2. The longevity argument doesn't make sense for some of your points. Jada has no classic albums....ok cool, your opinion....but no longevity?
The same goes for Slick Rick. He came out in 1985, dropped a critically acclaimed gold album in 1999, and was still killing features against new rappers, 15 years later. Ok he ain't made noise in a while....but dude had a run for 15-20 years....what more do you want?
Also Slick Rick borderline pioneered story telling in rap. So you're not even taking into account other aspects of greatness.
3. Three people from your list died....you know the routine. Death = you're gonna be over rated all to hell. In any thing, not just rap, and not just the east coast. And "LAD" ain't classic.
I mean....people from other regions give artists GOAT passes for less shyt than this. Andre is my favorite rapper all-time but he's erroneously in a bunch of GOAT discussions with no solo album. UGK got one gold album in 20 years, but people claim they're a GOAT level group. Does longevity mean just putting out music, or do people have to care about it?
Fred.
One shot you're through with themI agree with the general point of what you're saying but a few things:
1. Even 1 classic album is a great accomplishment. Most artists in any genre of music can't say they have even one classic album. By your own admission most of your list has at least one.
2. The longevity argument doesn't make sense for some of your points. Jada has no classic albums....ok cool, your opinion....but no longevity?
The same goes for Slick Rick. He came out in 1985, dropped a critically acclaimed gold album in 1999, and was still killing features against new rappers, 15 years later. Ok he ain't made noise in a while....but dude had a run for 15-20 years....what more do you want?
Also Slick Rick borderline pioneered story telling in rap. So you're not even taking into account other aspects of greatness.
3. Three people from your list died....you know the routine. Death = you're gonna be over rated all to hell. In any thing, not just rap, and not just the east coast. And "LAD" ain't classic.
I mean....people from other regions give artists GOAT passes for less shyt than this. Andre is my favorite rapper all-time but he's erroneously in a bunch of GOAT discussions with no solo album. UGK got one gold album in 20 years, but people claim they're a GOAT level group. Does longevity mean just putting out music, or do people have to care about it?
Fred.
Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
Why? NY don't even give a fukk about NJ. Treach is legit a top spitta but you never hear his name mentioned by the biased NY media/industry.As an NJ native this hurts to read
It's like that for MCs in general.....
Might I add that we had to go through NY posters on
We had to deal with being told this guy was going to be a massive star...
Remember when NYC posters tried to act like Ron Brownz was a super producer?
From about 2003-2010 we had to deal with any little buzz being over blown and even the most average of MCs being hyped up so NYC had something....
those were dark times
untaintedbeats
Pro
whats funny is if great music or a great discography are what put u in the top 10...then there are more nyc based artist that should be on the list than there is now 
