New Yorkers arent aware that we're from the "North"

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Do you think the jersey areas right across the Hudson River are an extension of NYC?

yes. I would think so. how do you feel about people comparing NJ to NY (or affiliating Jersey areas as outer parts of ny?)

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Yeah blew my mind when they said SC was the east coast.

Thats just how it is on our end

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Anybody that say VA ain’t the south ain’t never been in VA...

We southern bruh

Northern VA is way different than Southern VA (any parts south of Fredericksburg, Richmond.. etc). Anything south of Richmond is very southern to me.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Sc is unapologetically southern though

They dont sound "country" to us.

 

[FLYINHAWAIIAN]

Anybody that say VA ain’t the south ain’t never been in VA...

We southern bruh

Southern to jersey and new york and them. But VA and tx have like zero similarities.
Like Mississippi and Louisiana looks kinda similar, people dress kinda similar and have close accents

 

[K.O.N.Y]

yes. I would think so. how do you feel about people comparing NJ to NY (or affiliating Jersey areas as outer parts of ny?)

i think its wrong. Simply jersey is jersey new york is new york

 

[Pazzy]

You aren’t saying anything. Those issues are occurring in every city in America.

Washington DC that was chocolate city is now a tourist destination and not majority black.

Atlanta pushing blacks in suburbs.

Blacks leaving LA in droves.

Black in Chicago leaving in droves.

Gentrification and tourism is the wave for all major cities.

You clearly do not understand America right now. Money is being thrown at major cities because rich folks want to live in those environments now.

Philadelphia is coming next. Temple University started the wave and now gentrification and development will follow!

Stop saying dumb stuff and get educated on topics before talking nonsense!

All the cities you named with the exception of Los Angeles still have their own identity attached to it. The natives still dictate the culture.

The irony is you basically are doing the same shyt you're accusing me of. You basically wrote eveything except what I was talking about. I'm writing about NYC losing its identity through the gentrification going on. reread again. A prime example of this is the show high maintenence on hbo. A good show but clearly, anybody that knows NYC culture or NYC knows that that ain't the real Brooklyn shyt. That's that new new York shyt that the natives can't relate to. Something for and about gentrifiers. You have vice magazine even trying to change the image of NYC to the point they're making anything that isn't gentrified brooklyn into some space shyt. I don't see that with Atlanta, Chicago, Houston, new Orleans and etc. I don't see the native new yorkers stepping up and saying ya are misrepresenting us. they stay complaining though. Folks getting ran out their city or staying silent allowing these gentrifiers to tell them what new York is about.

 

[AB Ziggy]

yes. I would think so. how do you feel about people comparing NJ to NY (or affiliating Jersey areas as outer parts of ny?)

There's nothing in Jersey that's a true extension of the city. Not even close by places like Jersey City or Hoboken has much in common with the 5 boroughs outside of being a 10 minute PATH stop.


The moment you leave that Holland Tunnel and GWB you will KNOW you're not in NY anymore. It's just the atmosphere and vibe difference.

 

[poppastoppa]

There's nothing in Jersey that's an extension of the city. Not even close by places like Jersey City or Hoboken has much in common with the 5 boroughs outside of being a 10 minute PATH stop.


The moment you leave that Holland Tunnel and GWB you will KNOW you're not in NY anymore. It's just the atmosphere and vibe difference.

This is what we are saying about "the south" we see NY and NJ as basically the same stuff, but you don't because you know the differences and can recognize it. It's the same thing people are trying to explain to OP.

 

[VirginiaSlim75]

Southern to jersey and new york and them. But VA and tx have like zero similarities.
Like Mississippi and Louisiana looks kinda similar, people dress kinda similar and have close accents

I feel you on that...but TX ain’t the only definition of the south...hell half y’all state look more like Arizona/New Mexico

Don’t no other southern state look like Texas

 

[K.O.N.Y]

This is what we are saying about "the south" we see NY and NJ as basically the same stuff, but you don't because you know the differences and can recognize it. It's the same thing people are trying to explain to OP.

its not about perception or "seeing" something

It would be different if ny and nj both subscribed to the idea of being the "norf"

like south carolina and georgia do with the "souf"

 

[TaxCollector13459]

You moving goal posts like fukk, at first you basically insinuated that black folks from the south all sharing the exact same identity and having each others back was the reason the south has done so well in hip hop, when nothing could be further from the truth. I just outlined the cultural differences and and a few of the different beefs. Now you trying to say that Black folks from the south are just simply aware of being from the south, when that’s not what you started on at all patna.


And you watched it unfold from where?? Source magazine? Your 1 week trip down south in the summer? So because some cac hip hop writer from suburban New York calls it the Dirty, that’s what brehs actually in the south is on? Nah breh. I watched it unfold with my own eyes too, cuz I’m from this bytch.

Just off this thread alone and the reasons you tried to draw together to back up your argument shows me you really don’t have a clue what you talking about. The south did what it did in music because we’re musically inclined as fukk down here. You acting like like we didn’t create Rock n Roll, Blues and Jazz down here. Like more brehs in the south don’t grow up in the church and by extension church choir, church band, and just flat out being musical and rhythmic at least once a week. Like a HS marching band competition doesn’t pack 60,000 into a football stadium easily on the regular. Being in the band at a hood school isn’t some band geek shyt, lot of brehs aspire to that down here. Pretty sure cats like Zaytoven came up in the percussion section in somebody marching band back in the day. And lastly as y’all NY nikkas say, we closer to the feeling down here. We all walk with our ancestors, no matter where you at. But down here we walking in their footsteps. Young breh with rap dreams, growing up in Riverdale ClayCo, makin beats in his mama house, on the exact same land the ancestors was singing Bring Sally Up, Bring Sally Down on 175 years ago.

 

[TaxCollector13459]

Hell nah. SC is like another world. SC is more like GA and AL.

In fact SC probably has more gulla/geechie representation than both GA and AL.

Everything else is spot on.

Facts!

 

[GoAggieGo.]

TX/LA/Miss- Gulf coast, heavy creole influence, jambalaya, gumbo, crawfish, Mardi Gras party anywhere at any time type of culture, Slabs, Vogues, Buicks, Grand Prixs, Yat accent in LA which means its a southern accent without a drawl, mix of yat and southern drawl in TX, Miss mostly drawl but still has some of rhythmic way of talking that Yat does. Black folks from that area tend to be very aggressive, in a up north type of way. If that makes sense. Especially LA and Miss, yeah Miss is mostly rural, but that shyt is like Terrordrome in the woods

GA/FLA/Bama- Heavy Geechie influence, geechie kinda like creole without the French and Spanish, Brunswick Stew, Fish Fry's and low country boils, tends to be more religious, not as heavy a party culture like the Mardi Gras demo, which in turn created the Juke Joint culture- little spot that had to be ducked off in the woods cuz you didn't want word to get out that you was turning up at night. Chevy Caprices, Impalas, Monte Carlos, big ass rims, dreads. As a whole more laid back, but, Low country Black folks in this region are more jealous and aggressive than up country/Piedmont brehs, but still not as jealous and aggressive as LA/Miss 3rd coast brehs. The accent gets less the further south and closer to the coast you go, Geechie accent is alot faster and almost sounds up north. SAV, Chucktown, North FLA..etc. Like if you put a ATL breh and a SAV breh side by side and had them speak, you would guess the SAV breh was from the bigger city. Cuz we sound waaaay countrier than they do.

Carolinas- Damn near Mid Atlantic, a lot more European influence with the food, BBQ, liverwurst, cheerwine soda, less of an accent in NC. Even more conservative turn up wise than GA/FLA/Bama, but not as or the same level of religious. Lot more up north/east coast influence. Ford Crown Vics and Caddys, dreads too but lot of braids also. shyt load of light skinned and mixed Black folks, especially in NC. SC tends to be more like GA and NC tends to be more like VA, but they are basically the same damn thing. I don't really think they distinguish from north and south like that. Its just the Carolinas to them.

Upper south-Tenn/Arkansas/KY- industrial midwest kinda vibe, coal mines and other forms of labor like that. West Tenn is Black as shyt, but its not as many brehs in this part of the south. Poorer soil, harder to grow crops so it wasn't as many slaves as further south. Mostly really poor too tho, Memphis, Little Rock, Clarksville, Louisville, all of them are pretty rough when it comes to the Black side of things. I'd say Memphis culture dominates this region, Mtown very much has a big footprint culturally. Not even sure what type of cars for them, Ive seen some of everything the couple times ive slid thru Memphis. They for sure have an affinity for white cars up there, like damn near how it be when you in the Caribbean. Came out this hood club up there and it seemed like half the lot was white cars. Know it sounds wild, but its a thing up there

I’m from NC and have spent most of my life there, but I spent some of my teenage years in the Sip; even went back there for a job once I graduated from college. You were pretty much spot on with your description for both those areas.

Them Mississippi nikkas don’t play at all, and it be small rural towns where sh*t gets wild often and quickly. I’d say their gang culture is pretty active as well, and it’s probably the state in the south with the most gang activity, as them G’s and Lords are rampant through those small rural towns. My bro goes to school in Starkville, and will tell me how this small city that is dominated by Mississippi State Univ, is a hot bed for G activity. It also makes sense that it gets a little more wild in those 3 states, as some of the most brutal slavery was practiced in these states. I know in Jackson and Clarksdale, the pressure is applied and it’s applied quickly. I spent majority of my time on the coast, and while Biloxi and Gulfport would be on that shyt, it was little ass Moss Point that really got down.

I know NC very well, as that’s my home state and where I consider home. I remember telling people in MS that I was from NC, and they could always tell, because my accent or drawl isn’t really that thick at all.
I hate it, but there was a point where NY nikkas was damn near worshipped around here. A lot of Carolina nikkas tried to be like nikkas from NYC. It’s not really like that in the rural towns of NC, and aside from Charlotte, the major cities in NC are heavily East Coast/NYC influenced. I still remember back in the mid 2000’s when we, along with VA, was on that “Middle East” shyt. “We’re not the south, were the Middle East.” Now, like you said, we’re just the Carolinas. Now, it’s not lit that in the rural cities, but Greensboro, Winston, Raleigh/Durham, etc you meet quite a few people who fit your description. I’ll never forget meeting this Fayetteville nikka back in school, used to be NYC down daily, from a Yankee cap all the way to how he talked. We was at a party, and he doing his usual NYC thing, until finally a real NY dude calls him out on it. “Son, you from Raeford NC, out here trying to act and be like me.” We all clowned and laughed, but that’s just how it can be arou here at times

 

[AAKing23]

Speaking as an NJ dude, NY is and has always been it's own separate entity. NY nikkas don't really fukk with us like that and we don't really fukk with them like that either. We're two different states with very different mentalities and culture but we're always grouped with each other because we're right next to each other.