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  1. You didn't answer my question. Did you vote in 2016 and 2018?

  2. You could have voted in three out of four of those places with no ID, as long as you were registered. :heh:

    Just because they asked for it doesn't mean it was required :heh:


You know it's bad when you completely agree with the Democratic cuck over the ALT right troll who acts obtuse to blatantly racist voting rules. :gucci:
 

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  1. You didn't answer my question. Did you vote in 2016 and 2018?

  2. You could have voted in three out of four of those places with no ID, as long as you were registered. :heh:

    Just because they asked for it doesn't mean it was required :heh:

Yes. I voted in 2016 and 2018.

Show me evidence I could have voted in those places without ID. Show me the receipts?
 
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It used to be you could bring your utility bill and be allowed to vote. There's no reason why that needed to change. Especially when,



Why pass a law to "fix" an issue that never had any impact in voting outcomes in the first place?

Utility bill is fine, but It doesn't rebut what I'm saying, which is it takes less than 2 years to get a photo ID. It is not a hardship that takes 2 years to overcome.
 

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Yes. I voted in 2016 and 2018.

So answer my question, how is a poll worker suppose to verify some random person, myself, is who I say I am?

That's what voter registration is for. :gucci:

You can vote if your name is on list.

People who actually go vote don't typically impersonate other people, and the statistics show that. That's dumb on multiple levels.
 

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Utility bill is fine, but It doesn't rebut what I'm saying, which is it takes less than 2 years to get a photo ID. It is not a hardship that takes 2 years to overcome.

Should having your license revoked for a DUI also make you ineligible to vote?

What about if the ID needed on voting day is stricter than the ID needed to register (utility bill to register, photo ID to vote)?

What if you live in a place where you don't need a driver's license (downtown Chicago, NYC, etc.)?

Because what you're advocating would make that a thing.
 

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That's what voter registration is for. :gucci:

You can vote if your name is on list.

People who actually go vote don't typically impersonate other people, and the statistics show that. That's dumb on multiple levels.

It is not common, but people don't normally go into a bank and access other people's accounts either.....but guess what you need ID to access your bank account unless the people at bank are familiar with you. Poll workers don't necessarily know the voters coming to that precinct, because the poll workers are not always from the area. I lived in DC and worked polls way out in Montgomery County, MD.

The same people that bank also need some form of ID.

There are people with hardships, no doubt, but the percentage of people with hardships that are so severe they can't get an ID in 2 years is just as small as these percentages you are throwing out. There is no way you are going to say it takes longer than 2 years to get an ID, if the law requires it.

We all know there are racist Republicans doing racist Republican fukkboi shenanigans. But don't sit here and say black folks are incapable of getting an ID.
 
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Should having your license revoked for a DUI also make you ineligible to vote?

What about if the ID needed on voting day is stricter than the ID needed to register (utility bill to register, photo ID to vote)?

What if you live in a place where you don't need a driver's license (downtown Chicago, NYC, etc.)?

Because what you're advocating would make that a thing.

Having your licensed revoked doesn't mean they take your license, maybe it depends on jurisdiction. If there is a federal standard, then all the confusion can be eliminated. I'm not even saying there needs to be a federal standard, but something has to change because it shouldn't be this much chaos.

Places like China is laughing at us, saying democracy is messy and it shouldn't be.
 

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It is not common, but

Fail.

You conceded to my point of in person voter fraud being rare, but continue to complain about it.

Sounds like some Critical Objective Thinking may be required on your part.

but people don't normally go into a bank and access other people's accounts either.....but guess what you need ID to access your bank account unless the people at bank are familiar with you.

This is a non-sequitur. Having access to your own funds and having access to vote are not remotely similar.

There are people with hardships, no doubt, but the percentage of people with hardships that are so severe they can't get an ID in 2 years is just as small as these percentages you are throwing out.

Do you have data to support this? I provided a source. You should too.

If not, you're just making assumptions and calling them facts.

We all know there are racist Republicans doing racist Republican fukkboi shenanigans.

Then hold them accountable.

But don't sit here and say black folks are incapable of getting an ID.

"Black folks" as a whole aren't who we're discussing. Don't be dishonest. Voter ID laws are targeted to specific demographics in different areas.
 

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Fail.

You conceded to my point of in person voter fraud being rare, but continue to complain about it.

Sounds like some Critical Objective Thinking may be required on your part.



This is a non-sequitur. Having access to your own funds and having access to vote are not remotely similar.



Do you have data to support this? I provided a source. You should too.

If not, you're just making assumptions and calling them facts.



Then hold them accountable.



"Black folks" as a whole aren't who we're discussing. Don't be dishonest. Voter ID laws are targeted to specific demographics in different areas.

Your first talking point was about a judge saying black people are being discriminated against by a law requiring voter ID. Keep moving the goal post.

You want statistics here:

In 2012 the population of the United States citizens was 304 million. American FactFinder - Results.

226 million of that number were 18 years or older. In 2012 according to NPR 3 million adults didn"t have ID, NPR Choice page

  • "And it turns out that more than three million Americans actually don't own a government-issued picture ID. That's according to a recent study by New York University's Brennan Center for Justice."

So 3,000,000/226,000,00 = 1.3% of American adults didn't have ID for various reasons.

To sit her and say it's a major problem to ask people to obtain ID, when the overwhelming vast majority of American adults have one is you being naive or disingenuous, probably the former.
 

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Nice job editing your post, btw. Here is an interactive map:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx

No ID is required in Maryland, Washington DC, or North Carolina (as we've discussed before, they tried it and it got struck down).

More details can be found here:

Voter identification laws by state - Ballotpedia

Fair enough, but from your own link:


  • "Introduction: A total of 34 states have laws requesting or requiring voters to show some form of identification at the polls, all of which are in force in 2018. Scroll over the map below for state-by state details."
All 34 of those states have ID because of racist Republicans???Some of those states have no minority population to speak of in the first place.

So to keep saying it's a burden to get ID is blatantly false because 34/50 aka 68% of states requires Government issued ID as of 2018.

34 states >16 states

Even numerically you Lost. :mjlol:
 
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How did I lose if you're conceding my points, and I'm not? :umad:

I never said there were places that didn't require ID.

I said there was no detrimental issue with requiring ID, and your own link supported me since 34/50 require ID. You got faded by your own link. You don't have to concede, your own link took you out the discussion:jawalrus:
 

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