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I'm so tired of hearing the offensive line made Emmitt Smith. :camby:

Larry Allen came after Emmitt had already won 3 consecutive rushing titles. None of the other dudes on the line ever made a Pro Bowl until Emmitt got there. Dallas didn't have a 1,000 yard rusher the year before Emmitt arrived or the year after Emmitt left for Arizona.

Both Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith only played with ONE Hall of Fame lineman. This narrative that Barry's line was trash needs to die. Barry played with multiple pro bowlers on the line.

Also why is longevity and teammates held against Emmitt but not Jerry RIce? fukk the double standards. Emmitt doesn't get the credit he deserved because he played for the Dallas Cowboys.
Ok a few things...


It wasn't JUST the oline... Smith had a team that was about 150 levels above any Lions team... He had a HOF qb and wr and defensive players out the ass... You can TRY and say the lines were equal, but we know they weren't... But lets say they were. The rest of the team and offense being better, is going to make your life a lot easier as a running back. They was loading 11 in the box for Barry :mjlol: They wasn't worried about shyt else






The next part is what truly made me speak on this... My man Jerry... There's a post on here that I love... That I wish more reporters and commentaters used... Jerry Rice's stats without Montana and Young.....

Stuart took a look at the numbers specifically during the Joe Montana and Steve Young years when Rice was playing without them. Over five seasons, that group of quarterbacks included Elvis Grbac (9 games), Jeff Kemp (6), Steve Bono (6), Mike Moroski (2), and Matt Cavanugh (1). Over 24 games, Rice caught 134 passes for 2,177 yards and 23 TDs. That creates an average season of 89 catches, 1451 receiving yards, and 16 touchdowns.

In 1999, he had 830 receiving yards and 5 scores, and the next season he had 805 yards and seven touchdowns. Far from great numbers, but he had a good excuse: Rice was 37 and 38 years old.

Of all the unbreakable records set by Rice, what he did in Oakland may be the most impressive. At age 40, he caught 92 passes for over 1200 yards.





Man don't bring Jerry up... That man was ELITE with straight up garbage QBs on garbage teams
 

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I'm not discrediting Jerry Rice for what he did. He is definitely the GOAT WR. The longevity factor and teammates aren't used to discredit anyone but Emmitt Smith and I'm not cool with that. I'm also not getting into team arguments. I'm not here to debate that. I'm sick of the double standards. @The Devil's Advocate Rice still had the advantage of playing with elite talent at QB and had longevity but people don't hate the 49ers like they do the Cowboys.
 

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Watched Emmitt at his peak and being a 9ers fan I saw him a lot. Like most Cowgirls players from that era...overrated as fukk but I can’t argue with him being ranked as high as he is. He has the numbers, longevity and chips. He just has the greatest online on the planet making gaping holes for him.

Barry is the greatest RB I ever watched. Emmitt couldn’t hold his jock.
 

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No thread on this yet...

NFL 100 All-Time Team running backs revealed - NFL.com

The only one of these guys I got to see was Emmitt's last 6 years. I think I missed his absolute peak, but I still got to see 40% of his career, and I gotta tell you, I was never that impressed with him...

So you gotta understand, while he was on the decline when I saw him, he still put up numbers those first three years. But there were other top RBs at that time like George, Ricky, Fred Taylor, Dillon, Faulk, these guys were all better than Emmitt in the 6 seasons I saw Emmitt play...

So it's a little perplexing to me to hear he is considered one of the best backs ever. I'm gonna need some convincing by guys on here who saw his prime...


emmitt smith is the NFL's all-time leading rusher.

and the fact that he was still around putting up numbers when you started watching, is another major plus. most of his peers at the position were pretty much out of the league by that point.
 

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emmitt smith is the NFL's all-time leading rusher.

and the fact that he was still around putting up numbers when you started watching, is another major plus. most of his peers at the position were pretty much out of the league by that point.

Yeah I want to clarify, I don't think Emmitt isn't an All-Time great---->I do...

My question is more born out of seeing guys like LT and Faulk omitted, and asking what made Emmitt better than them. I know about the accomplishments and when i saw him play, he was still really good, but since i missed his absolute peak I can't firsthand say why I would place him over other guys beyond the volume stats...

So I think I wasn't clear in earlier posts. I think Emmitt was a great player, I'm just not sure or sold on what made him better than other All-Timers...

Faulk is probably the best back I've ever seen, peak-for-peak. LT, Ricky, AD are all up there too, so just using my frame of reference, it's hard to see what separates Emmitt from these guys other than longevity and cumulative totals because of it (which does matter), because when I saw Emmitt, he was still a top tier back but that was simultaneously as Faulk was dominating and just before LT and Ricky came of age, and the Emmitt i saw was good but not at that level...

@AvadaKadaBreh helped by describing what he was elite at. Apologies all around though for not being clear--->I do think dude is great, I just need some clarification myself...
 

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Does anyone else think the Frank Gore comparison is apt? Consistent, durable, longevity, Gore is also a patient runner...

@Wacky D what do you think of the Front 7 list? Anybody you think should have made it?

I'm surprised Strahan didn't make it since NFL media loves his goofy ass. Last night Willie McGinest said he thought Derrick Thomas should made it...
 

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They only picked 10 RBs so I could understand AP not getting picked. His prime didn't last long enough. Same with Ricky.

LT has an argument though.
 

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They only picked 10 RBs so I could understand AP not getting picked. His prime didn't last long enough. Same with Ricky.

LT has an argument though.

I'd think Faulk has a case too though, right? He is the blueprint of the multifaceted do it all back that is popular now, and had no real weaknesses. Even his pass protection was elite, he could pick up blitzers better than anyone else at the peak of his game when he wasn't split out wide...
 
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