NFL All-Time Power Rankings, by conference

[Bboystyle]

I hear your point. The Bears history pre-FA is so much more dominant than the Broncos history post-FA, though.


The Packers have more championships than the Niners; both Cowboys and Pack have more wins, and a higher All-Time win percentage than the Niners; the Cowboys have more division titles than the Niners; and both the Pack and Cowboys have more playoff appearances than the Niners. Which is really saying something as the Cowboys have been mid for 30 years while the Niners have been mostly elite for most of the last 15 years, and mostly good for most of the last 30 years.

In none of those categories I named, are the Niners #1 in anything, they have 0 case as best All-Time franchise in the NFC.


There's no way this would be consistent, because then you're advocating for ranking the Jets over the Browns, Vikings, or Bills, because the Jets have won a Super Bowl. When those latter 3 franchises objectively have a better history than the Jets.

The Saints have a Super Bowl win, in their only appearance. The Bengals have been to three Super Bowls in two different eras, and have been to more AFC Championships, than the Saints have been to NFC Championships. The Saints are not a more successful franchise historically than the Bengals (the Bengals have won their division more, the Bengals have more playoff appearances and playoff games, etc).

I can keep going, there are other inconsistencies if we just rank everybody with a Lombardi, over everybody without one.

Sorry but if a team has never won shyt, i wouldnt rank them above a team that has regardless of current success or not. Just doesnt make sense.

 

[FTBS]

I hear your point. The Bears history pre-FA is so much more dominant than the Broncos history post-FA, though.

Thats true. However in the last 60 years (basically how long Broncos has existed) the Broncos are head and shoulders over the Bears. We talking 3 chips in what 7 or 8 appearances vs 1 chip in 2? The Broncos didn't exist when the Bears were dominating so you cant really hold that against them. Beyond that, while I am not dismissive of the past it is generally easier to dominate in the early years of a league/sport with no salary cap.

I know this may sound petty and random but I also feel the Bears should be dinged for never having a 4K passer

 

[Rekkapryde]

Packers got 13 NFL Championships with 4 of em being Superbowls.

They are Titletown for a reason

 

[murksiderock]

Thats true. However in the last 60 years (basically how long Broncos has existed) the Broncos are head and shoulders over the Bears. We talking 3 chips in what 7 or 8 appearances vs 1 chip in 2? The Broncos didn't exist when the Bears were dominating so you cant really hold that against them. Beyond that, while I am not dismissive of the past it is generally easier to dominate in the early years of a league/sport with no salary cap.

I know this may sound petty and random but I also feel the Bears should be dinged for never having a 4K passer

I feel you dog, I guess I take the stance of, everybody's history starts somewhere. I can't penalize the Bears because the Broncos or whoever else weren't around in the first ~40 years of the NFL, but I can appreciate that the Bears were dominant in the NFL that existed during that time.

I will agree with you that the last ~50 years (dating to the Broncos first Super Bowl run in '77) have been way more kind to the Broncos than to the Bears, I can concede that

Also I understand shytting on the Bears for never having a 4k passer Caleb will break that streak this upcoming year, but it is one of those stats thats inconceivable. It's like the Jets getting no picks for a whole season; the Bears are an old ass franchise in a league that has had people posting 4k seasons for 40+ years now and the Bears haven't had one guy do it, it is worth being shytted on