NFL bans hip drop tackle

[DJSmooth]

if they ban this, then they better start implementing rules that if a player is wrapped up for X amount of seconds, call the play dead. Any player getting wrapped up from behind is gonna get called. Offensive players are gonna dive and defender gonna get flagged.

So dumb how they are slowly fading defenses out of the game. Last year we saw the rise of defense and now they put this dumb ass rule in

Won't even have tackle football no more by the time I have kids. Just gonna be 7 on 7 with pads on.

 

[Supa]

Dog if you are Tackling someone from behind, you think a mf is gonna be standing straight up when trying to do it? That pic you posted is a damn horse collar. I remember peeps in the thread being angry it wasn’t called.

Some mf’s are slippery ans hell and your tackle may start in the midsection and momentum takes sliding down. Then ref interpretation is another thing that will be subjective. Again, the players are against it. Pretty sure they have a better gauge in this than us couch surfers

This is clearly not a horse collar it's a hip drop:

Geno was running to the sidelines. The defender could have tackled him forward but instead he whips into his leg to pull him back. That's why players get hurt.

All these hip drops have the defender leaving their feet and getting horizontal into the offensive player's legs:

This is not a normal tackling motion. Remember Roy Williams injuring multiple players with a horse collar? That wasn't a normal tackle either. If they were you'd see them happen frequently. They don't which tells you that the vast majority of players don't need to do it to bring someone down. Both tackles are unnecessary and you won't see this flagged much because unless you're playing dirty it won't happen.

 

[DJSmooth]

Older football players weren't as good tacklers as players today.

I'm trying to figure out who even played football. They didn't even teach us how to tackle back in the day like that, you were just told to go out there and take someone head off and make sure they never want to touch the ball again and that's what we did.

 

[yseJ]

 

[Heretic]

And if you’re in pursuit? You want the tackler to run in front of a mf and “properly” tackle? And your first sentence is stupid. We’ve seen plenty of mf’s try to go head up and get ran tf over. You nikkas couldn’t have played football. Even the players union is against this.

I definitely played since I was 9 and have provided proof to a few people here and played at a high level. Nobody said anything about running in front of someone to tackle, you can wrap up from any angle. Getting run over is a part of football but again, there's more than one way to tackle. If you're not confident in wrapping up, then dive, low man wins goes both ways.



These are examples of hip drop tackles supposedly from the NFL itself. Some of those, especially swinging the legs around like that is a guaranteed injury. In real time some of those look borderline but watching them slowed down shows how that can fukk somebody up. It's not a common play though.

 

[Heretic]

That's not a hip drop tackle

 

[yseJ]

That's not a hip drop tackle

It kinda is under the definition tho

ARTICLE 18. HIP-DROP TACKLE. It is a foul if a player uses the following technique to bring a runner to the ground:
(a) grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms; and
(b) unweights himself by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body, landing on and trapping the runner's leg(s) at or below the knee.

Penalty: For a Hip-Drop Tackle: Loss of 15 yards and an automatic first down.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

This is clearly not a horse collar it's a hip drop:

Geno was running to the sidelines. The defender could have tackled him forward but instead he whips into his leg to pull him back. That's why players get hurt.

All these hip drops have the defender leaving their feet and getting horizontal into the offensive player's legs:

This is not a normal tackling motion. Remember Roy Williams injuring multiple players with a horse collar? That wasn't a normal tackle either. If they were you'd see them happen frequently. They don't which tells you that the vast majority of players don't need to do it to bring someone down. Both tackles are unnecessary and you won't see this flagged much because unless you're playing dirty it won't happen.

And y’all keep going back to these three plays fam. That tackle happens multiple times in games with no injury whatsoever. I don’t understand how yall can support trying to legislate all of the violence out of an inherently violent sport. I asked someone that played defense in the SEC and he came back with a question that had yet to be answered any time we have these rule changes: who’s ultimately responsible for safety of the ball carrier? cause the way these rules are made To protect, they seem to believe that offensive players aren’t capable.

 

[Novembruh]

so... it's pick your poison: tackle high and get flagged for helmet to helmet or targeting, even if the offensive player changes their trajectory when you're already initiating the tackle.
or tackle low, get dragged, have your forward momentum carry your lower body because that's a basic rule of physics, and get flagged for hip-drop.

ok.

So basically D. Henry going to have 2500 all purpose yards this season because there is functionally no way to bring that man down unless you meet him at the LOS head up before he builds any steam, and if Deebo Samuel catches a slant, just move out the way and let him score in the least amount of time so your offense can answer the 7 points without your defense getting someone ejected trying to do their job.

bet.

NFL out they minds Saw NBA changing to an all-offense no-defense situation and said 'hold my beer'

fukk it. I want to see some trick play screens to OGs and OTs. How you supposed to bring them down? a CB ain't gonna do it, and the only way a LB/DT can without it being hip-drop is to overpursue, turn around and square up for a tackle.

Where'd that 300lbs receiver that went viral a few years ago? Cuz gon eat in this new NFL

 

[42 Monks]

the problem is these offensive players are trying to get out of being tackled in the first place

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Every year the defense gets more and more handcuffed, this is b-ullshyt

 

[Supa]

And y’all keep going back to these three plays fam. That tackle happens multiple times in games with no injury whatsoever. I don’t understand how yall can support trying to legislate all of the violence out of an inherently violent sport. I asked someone that played defense in the SEC and he came back with a question that had yet to be answered any time we have these rule changes: who’s ultimately responsible for safety of the ball carrier? cause the way these rules are made To protect, they seem to believe that offensive players aren’t capable.

The NFL literally put out a video compilation of the now banned hip dropped and guess which plays were in it? The same plays we keep going back to.

The video was short because the illegal hip drop does not happen much. Wrapping up and dropping isn't banned. It's only when they whip into someone's leg.

How many times did you see the banned hip drop in the Super Bowl? The Playoffs? The season? Y'all act like it's happening all the time. It's rare. If it happened more you'd see dozens of clips.

Everytime the league tries to prevent injuries it's the same "might as well wear the flags, defense can't touch anyone" nonsense.

They banned the horse collar, they protect defenseless receivers, they don't let rushers hit the QB in the knees, they don't let you lead with the crown of the helmet, and the game has moved along just fine. They stopped letting rushers drop their weight on the QB and that hasn't stopped TJ Watt from piling up sacks every year. They adjusted how they tackle.

If they can prevent someone from having a season ending injury they should pass that rule because there's already high injury potential. If a tackle causes injury at a rate 25x more than normal it has to go.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'm trying to figure out who even played football. They didn't even teach us how to tackle back in the day like that, you were just told to go out there and take someone head off and make sure they never want to touch the ball again and that's what we did.

Dead ass!!

The tackling techniques I’ve learned training kids over the past few years have been phenomenal. I watch old school football with some of the kids and they keep pointing out play after play how defenders back in the days were tackling without driving their feet. They had me agreeing with them.

 

[wire28]

Another rule for refs to interpret differently case by case and fukk up game outcomes with.

I can’t wait for Goedert to get hurt again from an uncalled dirty tackle for the third year straight

#byrdgang

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

So how do they expect defenders to stop a players momentum otherwise

Y'all do know the hip drop tackle just started being a thing right?

How they expect them to stop them? How they stop them all the years prior before they stole that shyt from rugby?