NHL Season thread Jan -July 2013

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I love PK and think this reeks of cism, but to be devil's advocate he has been known to play dirty in the past (slew footing for example).

A slew foot, not a single suspension yet he's tops ahead of the likes of Marchand, Kaleta, Lapierre, Ott, etc...nikkaz who have been dirty for YEARS and have actually seriously hurt people.
 

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He's a ****** that doesn't know his place.
Son's swag is :smugdraper:

I was thinking the same thing. I've never seen a player get so much unnecessary hate before(except for maybe Ray Emery), it's like everything he does is magnified. I hope he doesn't change who is to appease these racist hockey purist CACs and keeps makin em mad. :heh:
 

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I love PK and think this reeks of cism, but to be devil's advocate he has been known to play dirty in the past (slew footing for example).

The other guys on that list have done alot worse though. There's guys not on the list who have done worse things than PK, like Matt Cooke and Milan Lucic. Even Crosby and Ovechkin have done more dirt than PK.
 

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What did Ray do ? He only lead that shytty team in 07 to a Cup final and goes out there and fights goons on behalf of his soft teammates...He always got undeserved hate...

shytty team? Led?

They had the best line in hockey and a team that could roll 4 lines. He was fine during the Cup finals run, but by no means did he lead them there the way a Brodeur, Quick, etc have

As for this "undeserved hate", he was constantly late to meetings, games, and practices. He literally fought teammates. Nevermind all the off-ice stuff (the drugs, the partying, the run-ins with the law).

Not everything is 'cism.

If he was so great, why did no other team take a chance on him as soon as they cut him? Why did he have to go to Russia? For that matter, why has he not been able to keep a #1 goalie job in the NHL since?

What happened was, he went to the finals with the Sens. He was a good player for them, but wasn't elite. In any event, he was hurt going into the next season, and Martin Gerber started the year off for the team. The Sens were off to the best start in the NHL and so when Emery got healthy, they didn't go back to him as the #1 guy because, well, they were winning. He would literally throw temper tantrums in practice about this.

The guy is an average goalie who was made to look better than he was because he played for a great team.
 

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shytty team? Led?

They had the best line in hockey and a team that could roll 4 lines. He was fine during the Cup finals run, but by no means did he lead them there the way a Brodeur, Quick, etc have

As for this "undeserved hate", he was constantly late to meetings, games, and practices. He literally fought teammates. Nevermind all the off-ice stuff (the drugs, the partying, the run-ins with the law).

Not everything is 'cism.

If he was so great, why did no other team take a chance on him as soon as they cut him? Why did he have to go to Russia? For that matter, why has he not been able to keep a #1 goalie job in the NHL since?

What happened was, he went to the finals with the Sens. He was a good player for them, but wasn't elite. In any event, he was hurt going into the next season, and Martin Gerber started the year off for the team. The Sens were off to the best start in the NHL and so when Emery got healthy, they didn't go back to him as the #1 guy because, well, they were winning. He would literally throw temper tantrums in practice about this.

The guy is an average goalie who was made to look better than he was because he played for a great team.

Plenty of players are late for meetings fight teammates,have traffic accidents...Hell Bob Probert was a crackhead and was treated as an adorable loveable cartoon character...Alot of that stuff is hearsay...

NObody gave him a shot cuz hockey is run by codes and a real old time boys network...You cant have ANY personality or anything that doesnt adhere to the "code" and ethics of the sport or else your black listed...Same way everyone associated with the game is trying to villify Subban right now...

You got puppets on TV that literally reference him every 5 mins in a negative light because he held out for 2 weeks..thats how this league is...

Not everything is cism but were talking about hockey,a sport and league that in every way constantly borders on thin veiled bigotry...from the Evander Kane pics to Subban to code words used on CBCs round table to blatant use of racist remarks during the games by players,you cant ever exclude cism in this sport....
 

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Plenty of players are late for meetings fight teammates,have traffic accidents...Hell Bob Probert was a crackhead and was treated as an adorable loveable cartoon character...Alot of that stuff is hearsay...

That was also in a different time, 15-20 years earlier, without social media, when such things could be kept from the public. Not the case with Emery, and not in a (by pro sports standards) small town like Ottawa where shyt gets around.

NObody gave him a shot cuz hockey is run by codes and a real old time boys network...

Sorry breh, but I disagree. I watched every single game he ever played for the Sens, so I think I have a good idea of what Emery brings to the table as a goalie, and I think executives around the league did as well.

You can be an off ice distraction if you are a great player and win games. It's why if Subban was put on the market by the Habs, teaming would be lining up to get him. But if you're a middle of the road guy, which Emery was, nope.

You cant have ANY personality or anything that doesnt adhere to the "code" and ethics of the sport or else your black listed...

:comeon:

Someone saw Sean Avery on Off The Record, huh

I agree with you that Subban is getting a raw deal, and race probably contributes to it at all, as does the culture of hockey that doesn't promote individuality.

But as someone who followed the Ray Emery saga pretty closely, I think he got what he had coming to him. Hell, even he says, in retrospect, it was a good learning experience.
 

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That was also in a different time, 15-20 years earlier, without social media, when such things could be kept from the public. Not the case with Emery, and not in a (by pro sports standards) small town like Ottawa where shyt gets around.



Sorry breh, but I disagree. I watched every single game he ever played for the Sens, so I think I have a good idea of what Emery brings to the table as a goalie, and I think executives around the league did as well.

You can be an off ice distraction if you are a great player and win games. It's why if Subban was put on the market by the Habs, teaming would be lining up to get him. But if you're a middle of the road guy, which Emery was, nope.



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Someone saw Sean Avery on Off The Record, huh

I agree with you that Subban is getting a raw deal, and race probably contributes to it at all, as does the culture of hockey that doesn't promote individuality.

But as someone who followed the Ray Emery saga pretty closely, I think he got what he had coming to him. Hell, even he says, in retrospect, it was a good learning experience.

Of course he says that on the record,he wants to play and get another payday somewhere,if you dont admit humility for all hockey people to see your chastised...Executives saw Tyson on his mask,his escalade,his fashionable non traditional hockey pre game attire and alleged stories of disobedience passed around by bigoted and hateful writers and decided they didnt want "THAT" in there league...

Excusing the time period for Probert is lame,theres plenty of guys in the last decade who fought teammates in practice and were so called "headaches" and some had legal issues that never had to go play in Russia and were never told on national telcasts that they had to "humble" themselves....
 

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Of course he says that on the record,he wants to play and get another payday somewhere,if you dont admit humility for all hockey people to see your chastised...Executives saw Tyson on his mask,his escalade,his fashionable non traditional hockey pre game attire and alleged stories of disobedience passed around by bigoted and hateful writers and decided they didnt want "THAT" in there league...

Excusing the time period for Probert is lame,theres plenty of guys in the last decade who fought teammates in practice and were so called "headaches" and some had legal issues that never had to go play in Russia and were never told on national telcasts that they had to "humble" themselves....

So at what point should a team not be ok with fukkery off the ice? Never, in your world?
 

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So at what point should a team not be ok with fukkery off the ice? Never, in your world?

What fukkery ? He got into an accident on the highway in his escalade rushing to a practice ? The fukkery in this case is exaggerated...
 

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Excusing the time period for Probert is lame,theres plenty of guys in the last decade who fought teammates in practice and were so called "headaches" and some had legal issues that never had to go play in Russia and were never told on national telcasts that they had to "humble" themselves....

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This is a joke, right?

Back in 2008, the media went in on him for the slighest thing; whether it was his flashy clothes, driving a hummer, or having a picture of Mike Tyson on his mask. I have no problem with them criticizing his play on the ice, but attacking him personally is crossing the line. Meanwhile Martin Gerber was shytting the bed in the playoffs and barely got any heat on TSN and CBC.
 
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