Nice guys & Nice Girls...does anyone notice the double standard?

[Larry Lambo]

The OP is all over the place...

On one hand you're saying nice guy tactics don't "work" and the nice guys are told it's their fault....

But nice guy tactics do work....just often not on the women the nice guys are going after. Most devout Christian woman and other sheltered types....see what we are calling "nice guy" here as the norm.

It's like being a housecat but expecting to catch and pull down an antelope. That's for lions. Stick to mice.

Ehh, some truth to that, but there's more to it.

The reality is a lot of "regular" chicks (including the sheltered Christian women you refer to) are being sold dreams to dudes above their level and many of them are gonna pick that guy every time over the guy with the intention to commit for real. Most of us have sold dreams a couple times ourselves, so we know what we're dealing with. He'll take her on a few dates, wine and dine her, and then 3 months into it, he gets tired of the P and moves on.

It's not about finding a regular chick, it's about finding a regular chick that tired of the games and is realistic about the type of men that would really be interested in a long term relationship.

It's also about gaining her trust and bonding with her to the point, where she can turn down a more appealing but "shakier" offer from a dude out of her league. This is why I believe it's better to look for wifey type chicks in your social circle/work/organization so that you can build that relationship with her before dating vs. trying to win her over on dates when she has all kinds of dudes trying to do the same. It's difficult to connect with a woman on par with you, on the random, unless your mouthpiece is impeccable. There's too much to deal with to stick out.

 

[GreenGhxst]

The manipulation and shaming ain't going work bruh. Try someone else, i'm not the average coli member.

no manipulation, I just enjoy being a man, I don't change with the wind fam

 

[londonize]

Men always have been and always will be the disposable gender.

If you're talking about dynamics within specific communities then yes, there could be a lot more appreciation, tolerance and love for non-stereotypical men in the black community. But the purpose of nice guys in wider society will always be to for women who are done sleeping around and ready to start a family.

Society doesnt care about what you want, our given purpose is to work, breed and die without questioning any of it (if you want a real mindfukk about how little value we have, start researching paternity disputes).

 

[MalikX]

Ehh, some truth to that, but there's more to it.

The reality is a lot of "regular" chicks (including the sheltered Christian women you refer to) are being sold dreams to dudes above their level and many of them are gonna pick that guy every time over the guy with the intention to commit for real. Most of us have sold dreams a couple times ourselves, so we know what we're dealing with. He'll take her on a few dates, wine and dine her, and then 3 months into it, he gets tired of the P and moves on.

It's not about finding a regular chick, it's about finding a regular chick that tired of the games and is realistic about the type of men that would really be interested in a long term relationship.

It's also about gaining her trust and bonding with her to the point, where she can turn down a more appealing but "shakier" offer from a dude out of her league. This is why I believe it's better to look for wifey type chicks in your social circle/work/organization so that you can build that relationship with her before dating vs. trying to win her over on dates when she has all kinds of dudes trying to do the same. It's difficult to connect with a woman on par with you, on the random, unless your mouthpiece is impeccable. There's too much to deal with to stick out.

People hate it but, that's why it worked better before. You had to offer marriage to get with a woman. There was no deception going on, no guys selling dreams and no girls thinking they could get a man above their level. Dudes can barely keep up the facade for a month or two before they get tired of a hoe. They definitely wasn't marrying them. But people wanted it this way so that's why we got this to deal with in the dating world.

 

[DarkHorse23]

To those who added intelligent feedback i appreciate you. To the simps who responded @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! you can drink bleach. To the single woman @PeridotPuss we can just agree to disagree.

 

[PeridotPuss]

To those who added intelligent feedback i appreciate you. To the simps who responded @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! you can drink bleach. To the single woman @PeridotPuss we can just agree to disagree.

no longer single. Have a good night.

 

[The ADD]

The problem is that the examples are always a younger guy still going through dating struggles. Such is life sir

Stuff like this usually works it's self out of you are in it for relationship purposes. Otherwise the game is the game.......

 

[londonize]

Define masculinity?

And you mean to tell me that men who mentor young boys, start up businesses, step into to be a stepfather and role model for some woman's kids isn't masculine.
Like really?

Those are provider roles that even women or gay man can fill (not very well but it still counts). The value in masculinity is in your personality, the vibe you give off, how people respond to you etc


Paraphrased quote from a red pill site: anyone can be born biologically male but it takes confidence, assertiveness and a real aura of masculine energy to be a man

 

[Michael9100]

look... black women are shallow... it doesn't matter how nice you are to them, if you aren't physically attractive (to them), they aren't "feeling" you...

..and I see you posted Obsidian's vids.... Do you agree with him about black women having higher testosterone rates than other groups of women?

 

[DarkHorse23]

I'd rather let others speak for me on whether I'm nice or not. Calling yourself "nice" is just raising alarm bells, if you say you're nice to people, wouldn't the people that you interact with be a better judge of that characteristic?

So if girls say they're nice, probably not. If dudes say they're nice, probably not. Am I nice? I don't know, people say I have a rough exterior to get to that "nice" part of me. I'll let others be the judge

I agree with 100%. I've never gone around saying i'm "nice". People have called me "nice" but i've never said publicly. When guys or girls say that i cringe.

 

[DarkHorse23]

look... black women are shallow... it doesn't matter how nice you are to them, if you aren't physically attractive (to them), they aren't "feeling" you...

..and I see you posted Obsidian's vids.... Do you agree with him about black women having higher testosterone rates than other groups of women?

Yes. It makes sense too. Black women hold physical appearance over everything else in more priority than everything else, and i think the proof is in the pudding. Look at the men they choose. Physical attractiveness is #1 for black women. Other races care too, don't get it twisted, but i'd say they are more pragmatic overall.

 

[DarkHorse23]

no longer single. Have a good night.

 

[DarkHorse23]

Those are provider roles that even women or gay man can fill (not very well but it still counts). The value in masculinity is in your personality, the vibe you give off, how people respond to you etc


Paraphrased quote from a red pill site: anyone can be born biologically male but it takes confidence, assertiveness and a real aura of masculine energy to be a man

Dude stop talking you have lost all credibility. We have nothing left in discuss.

 

[londonize]

Dude stop talking you have lost all credibility. We have nothing left in discuss.

Keep banging your head on the same brick wall as a thousand other "nice guys" before you

 

[DarkHorse23]

Keep banging your head on the same brick wall as a thousand other "nice guys" before you

I'm not a "nice guy" though. Never claimed to be