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If I am the Mavs I go for Giannis..Giannis, AD, Kyrie and co can get you a championship right now.....but from a business perpesctive if Flagg is can give you another decade of tickets sales, you keep him too.
Who is co.? You gotta trade everybody but them if you aren't trading one of them to get Giannis. So you would have 31 yr old Giannis, 33 yr old AD, and 34 yr old Kyrie...in 26-27 when Kyrie comes back. And straight vet min around them. No matter how great the players, that wont get you a chip in the modern NBA. And Giannis would be the youngest, most durable guy at 31 with injuries in 3 of the previous 5 playoffs.

You arent winning a chip with AD and Kyrie at this stage of their careers. And youth that can produce is the best thing you can have under this CBA. The smart move is to flip Klay, Kyrie, AD for younger guys and picks and maxmize the window before you gotta pay Cooper, Christie, and Likely.
 

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#We Are The Flash #DOOMSET #LukeCageSet #NEWLWO
Charlotte hasn't been well run in close to 30 years, and on top of that they are the losingest franchise in the NBA's history; the only franchise to never make a conference finals...

Charlotte's not gonna get a chance until, and unless, they prove they can build a competent team with consistency. They need multiple draft picks to hit and they need smart basketball operations...

Until then the Hornets are gonna remain what they pretty much always have been outside of their first 13 years or so...

Charlotte is not a basketball city. Its a football and racing city. The Hornets are not popular there, I'm sure people would show up if they ever start winning bit people only go to games now because the tickets are cheap and its a big deal to have an NBA game 41 nights per year for them...

There are very few diehard Hornets fans in the city, and once you leave and go throughout Carolina, the team just isn't popular at all...

They were super popular when they first started............because they were the first major league team in Carolina. They had the Carolinas to themselves for awhile, and they were good when they started...

The Panthers shut that shyt down after only a few years, because the Panthers were also a good expansion franchise, I think they went to the NFC Championship in like their second season...

Charlotteans LOVE the Panthers, they dont pack the stadium out when they are losing either, and tickets are cheap. But the coverage and fan support for the Panthers is like, 50x more than what the Hornets have. People actually care about the Panthers, and when you leave Charlotte, they are marketed and supported throughout both Carolinas...

Charlotte FC has only been in MLS a few years, and in true Charlotte fashion, they are really popular, like Top 3 in attendance in MLS. The key for Charlotte FC is gonna be, after they've been here 12-15 years, will people still care? If they go thru 8 straight losing seasons, will mf's still care?

The Panthers passed that test, the Hornets didn't. So its early to say how popular Charlotte FC truly is, all Charlotte expansion teams are hot the first decade or so. The Panthers have stood the test of time, though...

In contrast, living in Sacramento and Memphis, and close proximity to New York, show you what a basketball city is. LA too really, just investment in the sport from the ground up to a super fukking high degree. This is where Raleigh comes in, the city itself is a basketball hotbed and has been for what, 70+ years. The universities initially provided that spark (NCSU is in West Raleigh, Duke and UNC of course make up that whole "Tobacco Road" thing)...

But basketball is huge in Raleigh, from streetball, AAU, rec leagues, its a basketball city. Pistol Pete is from here, Nate McMillan is from here, John Wall of course. And there are famous hoopers from Clt but the city doesn't bleed basketball the way Raleigh does, which is akin to how NY, LA, Sac, Memphis just ooze basketball culture...

The only major league team in Carolina to win a championship are the Canes, who are from Raleigh, who are currently up 3-1 in Rd2 of Stanley Cup Playoffs. The Canes don't have tremendous marketing outside of Raleigh area, the same way the Hornets dont outside of Charlotte------>but the Canes are more popular in Raleigh than the Hornets are in Charlotte. And like the Panthers, Canes have been here like 28 years now and have passed the test of media and fan support when the team is bad. They are Raleigh's squad and they are pop up hockey leagues and multiple rinks throughout the city for mf's to get burn on. Raleigh invested in hockey in a way that is different from Charlotte's investment in basketball...

And the thing is major league basketball would sell itself in Raleigh because its a natural basketball city. The problem is think is more so the historic ties to Charlotte, why no one floats moving the Hornets. Its the first team in the Carolinas and I feel like people dont wanna upset that...

But they'd do so much better in Raleigh. Charlotte is also a bigger city with more money than Raleigh, so theres that. But Raleigh is already supporting NHL, and as a city is about the same size as Salt Lake and Milwaukee, which each have two big league teams. So Raleigh's big enough to support another sport (and they are pitching for an MLB expansion franchise, with state support and the Hurricanes owner backing em)...

I think its very possible the Hornets leave Charlotte again in 10-20 years. They are poorly run and the citizens largely dont care for em. And when the time comes that they depart Charlotte again, Raleigh should be in the mix off top because its a basketball city first and foremost, above anything...

All that is semi true and all that can easily be said change if they can get a star or star players

They didn’t get CP3
They didn’t get Zion
They didn’t get Wemby

Flagg couldve be the beginning of all that..

outside of Melo, the hornets don’t really have no one to truly care for
 

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You make zero sense here

If they keep Luka, their record wouldn’t have been bad enough to be in the lottery

Shyt worked out perfect for them. Ended up with Flagg and AD. Defense looking right
They would’ve continued to sit Luka nikka. Tf
 

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They would’ve continued to sit Luka nikka. Tf

:comeon:

No they wouldn’t have. Once he was healthy, he would’ve played.

The only way they end up with the first pick this year is doing what they did. They had to win a coin toss just to get in the lottery due to a tie. One more win, and they were out
 

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Not when there’s gambling involved.
Not when there’s big marketing money involved. And again, why would half the league and multiple billionaires conspire to get one random team the first pick. Silver works for the owners, not the other way around.

Yea no shyt Silver ‘works for the owners’, but his mandate is make them money. Period. So he isn’t setting up Teams’ meetings to ask for approval.

Ratings are low. He needs to fix it. The owners care about him doing it. Not the minutae of how he does it.

Also, as usual, Reddit is way ahead of the coli. Read closely:

[Vorkunov] “Many in the building agreed it was the most bizarre lottery they could remember… When the lottery drawing was televised on ESPN, with the people inside the room already aware of the results, there was laughter when the broadcast announced that the Mavericks had moved into the top four.”

(NBA Draft Lottery: Inside the silence, confusion and celebration from the Mavs’ stroke of luck)
 

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they'd probably make the playoffs with Luka though. :skip:
They would’ve continued to shut him down. nikka wasn’t hurt in the first place and he was shut down prior to the trade. Then Kyrie goes down too, you call the season, and protect your assets to trade Luka in the summer after you see the lottery. But you win the draft so, you get more options along with your pick.
 

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Yea no shyt Silver ‘works for the owners’, but his mandate is make them money. Period. So he isn’t setting up Teams’ meetings to ask for approval.

Ratings are low. He needs to fix it. The owners care about him doing it. Not the minutae of how he does it.

Also, as usual, Reddit is way ahead of the coli. Read closely:

[Vorkunov] “Many in the building agreed it was the most bizarre lottery they could remember… When the lottery drawing was televised on ESPN, with the people inside the room already aware of the results, there was laughter when the broadcast announced that the Mavericks had moved into the top four.”

(NBA Draft Lottery: Inside the silence, confusion and celebration from the Mavs’ stroke of luck)

It's a production. It's new information for the viewer
 

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Luka for AD, Gifford and the number 1 pick

just say Luka whole career was on the lakers and AD was on NO and was traded to Dallas

would dallas make that trade to get a prime 5x all nba player

Breh what? Help ain't coming, at best Nico gonna strong arm us for Reaves to get Gafford :mjlol:

Nico run the block now
 
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