Nikola Jokic is doing what Lebron couldn't with Russell Westbrook
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Tribal Outkast
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ANOTHER CAREER LEBRON ALMOST RUINED WIT THE KLUTCH MARKETING SCAPEGOATING
Winning a playoff series is the bare minimum when the center is the greatest player in the world in the middle of his prime. His '25 Nuggets is significantly better than the '22 Lakers Russ was on. You nikkas don't have an actual pointYear 19 LeBron was supposed to do the same thing with an inferior roster as Year 10 Jokic
AD was in Year 10 the year Russ played there, by the way...
DOESNT UR THROAT EVER GET TIRED FROM ALL THIS BRON DICCSUCKING?
VegetasHairline
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You talk about LeBron more than anyone else my man.
WE GOT A FORUM FULLA WEIRDOS WHO LIVE TO SLURP HIM
SOME1 NEEDS TO CHECK EM .. NOT AN EASY JOB, BUT I GOT YALL
KillerPups
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That series against the warriors was legendary peak NBA for me
murksiderock
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Trolling ain't for you, g. You better than thisWait..that 22 Lakers missed the playoffs with 4 top 75 players, Bron, AD, Russ, Melo
Well first of all, I don't think LeBron is the best player in the world; haven't thought so for years, and you can't pull anything of me saying he is, any time recently...
Since they won the title 5 years ago, hos ceiling is occasionally being the best player in a given game, and playing at a Top 10, borderline Top 5 level. But he does that in spurts, i wouldnt say hes consistently Top 5 by any stretch, and his Top 10 ceiling is hit or miss...
He's OLD. He ain't been the best player in basketball on any consistent basis in at least a half-decade...
Now, you're 100% right, I consider him the greatest player of all time by a pretty comfortable margin. That doesn't have anything to do with this bullshyt thread premise...
LeBron was in Year 19 when he had a Y14 Westbrook. Westbrook is in Y17 now----->but the best player on the team, who is also the best player in basketball, and to this point the greatest player of this 2020s era, is in Y10. Jokic's '25 Nuggets are significantly better than LeBron's '22 Lakers, or do you disagree with that?
Y10 Jokic (2025) is a significantly better player than Y19 LeBron (2022).....or do you disagree with that?
So if the '25 Nuggets and their best player are better than the '22 Lakers and LeBron, where is the shock value that the '25 Nuggets won this series with Westbrook----->vs an opponent who has been underwhelming playoff after playoff in the Kawhi era? Is it really a surprise the Nuggets won?
I'm trying to understand in basketball speak, how a substantially older player on a substantially inferior team was supposed to win with Westbrook 3 years ago. You got some basketball reasons to point to? Do you think '22 LeBron was as good as '25 Jokic, or the '22 Lakers were as good as '25 Nuggets?
I'm not getting your logic here...
As far as Durant:
Durant has been in the NBA for 18 years. The only championships he won, were with a team that won both before and after him, led by a player that has become considered historically greater than him (even though pre-2020s, the consensus was the other way----Durant was considered a historically greater player than Steph)...
Westbrook has played with alot of superstars. I hope he gets a title, but it wouldnt significantly change his legacy. It would be the Gary Payton or Jason Kidd ring...
What DOES affect his legacy, is in his youth, he played 8 years with Kevin Durant. Nobody played with Westbrook longer, and nobody has had young, in his prime Westbrook, for the duration Durant did...
It's a blemish on both their careers that they never won a title together, as both are among the greatest 45 or so players ever...
LeBron won with every star #2 he had. If he had Westbrook in the 2010s, unlike KD, Westbrook would have a title...
KD had Westbrook from 2008 to 2016. How is that the same as LeBron playing with Westbrook 2021 to 2023?
I don't get your angle unless you're dap fishing on some troll shyt 
I'm not white like you, nor am I white-adjacent. We don't do gay jokes, white boy. You ain't even close to being like us, fukk outta here...
Lebron and Klutch legitimately tried to end this man's career. Diabolical. 
Trolling ain't for you, g. You better than this
Well first of all, I don't think LeBron is the best player in the world; haven't thought so for years, and you can't pull anything of me saying he is, any time recently...
Since they won the title 5 years ago, hos ceiling is occasionally being the best player in a given game, and playing at a Top 10, borderline Top 5 level. But he does that in spurts, i wouldnt say hes consistently Top 5 by any stretch, and his Top 10 ceiling is hit or miss...
He's OLD. He ain't been the best player in basketball on any consistent basis in at least a half-decade...
Now, you're 100% right, I consider him the greatest player of all time by a pretty comfortable margin. That doesn't have anything to do with this bullshyt thread premise...
LeBron was in Year 19 when he had a Y14 Westbrook. Westbrook is in Y17 now----->but the best player on the team, who is also the best player in basketball, and to this point the greatest player of this 2020s era, is in Y10. Jokic's '25 Nuggets are significantly better than LeBron's '22 Lakers, or do you disagree with that?
Y10 Jokic (2025) is a significantly better player than Y19 LeBron (2022).....or do you disagree with that?
So if the '25 Nuggets and their best player are better than the '22 Lakers and LeBron, where is the shock value that the '25 Nuggets won this series with Westbrook----->vs an opponent who has been underwhelming playoff after playoff in the Kawhi era? Is it really a surprise the Nuggets won?
I'm trying to understand in basketball speak, how a substantially older player on a substantially inferior team was supposed to win with Westbrook 3 years ago. You got some basketball reasons to point to? Do you think '22 LeBron was as good as '25 Jokic, or the '22 Lakers were as good as '25 Nuggets?
I'm not getting your logic here...
As far as Durant:
Durant has been in the NBA for 18 years. The only championships he won, were with a team that won both before and after him, led by a player that has become considered historically greater than him (even though pre-2020s, the consensus was the other way----Durant was considered a historically greater player than Steph)...
Westbrook has played with alot of superstars. I hope he gets a title, but it wouldnt significantly change his legacy. It would be the Gary Payton or Jason Kidd ring...
What DOES affect his legacy, is in his youth, he played 8 years with Kevin Durant. Nobody played with Westbrook longer, and nobody has had young, in his prime Westbrook, for the duration Durant did...
It's a blemish on both their careers that they never won a title together, as both are among the greatest 45 or so players ever...
LeBron won with every star #2 he had. If he had Westbrook in the 2010s, unlike KD, Westbrook would have a title...
KD had Westbrook from 2008 to 2016. How is that the same as LeBron playing with Westbrook 2021 to 2023?
I'm not white like you, nor am I white-adjacent. We don't do gay jokes, white boy. You ain't even close to being like us, fukk outta here...
GUARANTEE U HAVE MORE WHITE BLOOD IN U THAN I DO
CORNY GOOFBALL TALKIN BOUT "U NOT LIKE US" BECAUSE SOMEONE CALLED HIM A DICCSUCKER
murksiderock
Superstar
Maybe I do, maybe I don't. But I'm a black man, I didn't grow up making gay jokes for fun. Yall do that shyt...GUARANTEE U HAVE MORE WHITE BLOOD IN U THAN I DO
CORNY GOOFBALL TALKIN BOUT "U NOT LIKE US" BECAUSE SOMEONE CALLED HIM A DICCSUCKER
WHOS YALL? U KNOW ISRAELI HUMOR?? OR JUST TALKIN OUT YA AZZ AGAIN????
CALLIN SOMEONE A DICCSUCKIN GROUPIE IS NOT EXACTLY THE FRAT BOY STYLE HUMOR U TRYNA PAINT IT AS
TRY AGAIN
Lebron and Klutch legitimately tried to end this man's career. Diabolical.
He facilitated two smear campaigns, one against Westbrook and once against Ham. Both black men. But according to @Born2BKing the majority of black athletes in history are c00ns, except for Bron, because he helps his friends and doesn't like Trump.
