Nintendo Is Doomed. Shares soar off newly launched Pokémon GO

[Zero]

Zelda was BY FAR the most talked about/hyped thing from e3. You must live in a fantasy land.

It wasn't even close and I say that as someone who thinks sonys e3 was completely amazing.

That gif of people running to play it

 

[Greenhornet]

stock

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Zelda made grown men cry this year

They were all faggits

 

[Black Bolt]

Theoretically you're right since the PS4 has a higher userbase, and being multiplatform means more people have access to the software. But I don't think the average PS4 owner would care to play a Mario or Zelda.

If Mario/Mario Kart/Zelda/Pokemon/DK/Splatoon etc were ever made multi plat please believe they'd sell out like hot cakes. I wish Nintendo would. Nintendo as a developer with their basket of Peak tier IP would be worth almost treble their present MV.
It'd be akin to how Disney truly unlocked the inherent value in both Marvel & Lucas Arts post acquisition.

The average PS4/Xbox gamer just wants great games & despite all their many faults, Nintendo know how to make great games

 

[teacher]

I think the emotions some posters are displaying shows they really care about Nintendo, why else get so emotional? You guys can come back it's okay

 

[winb83]

Typical logical fallacy of ad hominem being used here. When you can't argue against the actual points a person is making attack the person. I'm making a factual argument here and I get that some of you are passionate fans and you'll dress up anything this company does but even this thread backs my point.

Nintendo decides to make a game for hardware that isn't there's and their stock rises to the highest point since the 1980s. Nintendo puts out the Wii U and it drives their stock down. It's almost like reality is trying to tell them something even if you don't want to admit it.

I'll wait for somebody to actually prove this wrong

I'm talking about how they put out consoles now and no companies are interested in working with them or putting real games on their hardware. How companies like Rockstar, Bethesda, Ubisoft, EA, and Activision either abandoned them or have for decades now straight up acted like their hardware doesn't exist. How the best selling games in the industry like Grand Theft Auto aren't on their hardware and how they can't even get a Call of Duty or a Madden game at this point when the Xbox 360 a console that was released in 2005 and was outsold by the Wii is still getting them.

All the shyt that happened to Nintendo in the home console market they brought on themselves and deserved every bit of it. The reason they can't land standard big name game franchises outside of what they make themselves is because of stuff they did. If me calling that out makes me a hater, emotional, or crazy then so be it but prove it wrong.

 

[hex]

Better off in that they lower expenses and increase avenues of revenue.
You know what every business constantly tries to do.

If this was a problem Nintendo would. But it's not....so what are we talking about?

PS2 was the best selling console of all time and Sony blew through all the money they made from it trying to get the PS3 off the ground. Nobody said "well, Sony should bow out of gaming". But when it's Nintendo people say "they should go 3rd party" in a thread where their stocks have hit a record high. shyt is mind boggling.

Fred.

 

[David_TheMan]

If this was a problem Nintendo would. But it's not....so what are we talking about?

PS2 was the best selling console of all time and Sony blew through all the money they made from it trying to get the PS3 off the ground. Nobody said "well, Sony should bow out of gaming". But when it's Nintendo people say "they should go 3rd party" in a thread where their stocks have hit a record high. shyt is mind boggling.

Fred.

Where did I say Nintendo had a problem. Try reading with the fanboy over emotionalism turned off.
Talking about pure business, and if you can lose the cost of R&D and production from the varoius hardware they support and concentrate just on developing games, you are better off money wise.
As for your analogy, it makes no sense whatsoever, I never said Nintendo should leaving gaming, I said they should leave the hardware side and just become developers.

 

[hex]

Where did I say Nintendo had a problem. Try reading with the fanboy over emotionalism turned off.
Talking about pure business, and if you can lose the cost of R&D and production from the varoius hardware they support and concentrate just on developing games, you are better off money wise.
As for your analogy, it makes no sense whatsoever, I never said Nintendo should leaving gaming, I said they should leave the hardware side and just become developers.

I'm not a fan boy. Check my posts. I don't own anything Nintendo related. I don't post in Nintendo threads, aside from this one. It's not as if what you're saying is so that only a fanboy would disagree, anyway. The shyt you're saying makes zero sense.

And I said "people say Nintendo should go 3rd party". There is no logical reason to go 3rd party obviously....because it hasn't happened. You're saying "well, to save on R&D and production from hardware" as if 90% of their hardware (up until the Wii-U, really) hasn't been profitable. The only way a move to 3rd party would be more profitable than their current model is if game sales alone could offset any money they'd potentially lose by not making a console. And there's no guarantee for that, especially not given their hardware track record.

Which is why it hasn't happened. It's not really hard to understand.

Fred.

 

[Kingshango]

 

[David_TheMan]

I'm not a fan boy. Check my posts. I don't own anything Nintendo related. I don't post in Nintendo threads, aside from this one. It's not as if what you're saying is so that only a fanboy would disagree, anyway. The shyt you're saying makes zero sense.

And I said "people say Nintendo should go 3rd party". There is no logical reason to go 3rd party obviously....because it hasn't happened. You're saying "well, to save on R&D and production from hardware" as if 90% of their hardware (up until the Wii-U, really) hasn't been profitable. The only way a move to 3rd party would be more profitable than their current model is if game sales alone could offset any money they'd potentially lose by not making a console. And there's no guarantee for that, especially not given their hardware track record.

Which is why it hasn't happened. It's not really hard to understand.

Fred.

The only way what I suggest makes no sense is if business streamlining makes no sense for any business, which would be false.
The logical reason for Nintendo to go 3rd party is they drop costs associated with manufacturing consoles, and increase revenue for expanded retail base of games.
There is literally nothing bad about making the transition to 3rd party developer on wider platforms, the Pokemon Go success shows this.

Consoles aren't generally money makers, Wii was a success but the WiiU is costing them money and since they only make games for their system, it limits their potential customer base. Explain how no longer having to worry about consoles and instantly having the widest customer base available (the whole market) is a negative?

I don't know why it hasn't happened but before Pokemon Go, there was legitimate worry about the future health of the company and the direction they were headed, saying that streamlining makes no sense is confusing as hell to me from a business perspective.

As for calling you a fanboy, if you aren't I am sorry for saying it.

 

[Neil Tyson]

This is what you mouth breathers will never understand.

Nintendo will always adapt and thrive.

They are literally sitting on gold mines constantly because they always keep up the value of their IP.

So keep making they're doomed threads and pretend you know better than a billion dollar 100+ year old company.

But nah,Nintendo should dump all their resources into a powerful console and try to adapt to the west with their ip. That worked out so well for other Japanese devs last gen

So they did what everyone asked them to do. License Out their games or die

 

[The Mad Titan]

Nintendo licensed out pokemon go and its making them billions


Nintendo should handle most of there stuff to keep the quality high.


But everyone now and then like they have been slowly... licence something out. Even if its just a taste.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

So they did what everyone asked them to do. License Out their games or die

They didn't just license the game out for a quick buck. They own a piece of the company making the game as well.

 

[winb83]

If this was a problem Nintendo would. But it's not....so what are we talking about?

PS2 was the best selling console of all time and Sony blew through all the money they made from it trying to get the PS3 off the ground. Nobody said "well, Sony should bow out of gaming". But when it's Nintendo people say "they should go 3rd party" in a thread where their stocks have hit a record high. shyt is mind boggling.

Fred.

Sony doesn't have multiple consoles that weren't even worth owning in their active lives. You could have copped a Gamecube, Wii, and Wii U after they were discontinued and picked up the handful of worthwhile titles on each and not feel like you missed anything because the majority of the time they were out there were either long stretches of nothing or shovelware. Maybe a bit less with the Cube though.