Nintendo packing it up, No E3 press conference

[Liquid]

it's hard seeing mario with a flat top and spectacles.

sonic on the sidelines looking like

bonk in the corner looking like

I don't think Nintendo would have a flattop if they just focused on games and drop the console hardware division all together.

Their first party titles are still great.

 

[5n0man]

I don't think Nintendo would have a flattop if they just focused on games and drop the console hardware division all together.

Their first party titles are still great.

What the need to do is just develop a PC based system, let third party developers eat, and trim down the fat( new Mario bros, Mario sports titles, mii gimmic titles, remakes, etc.)

Focus on just their AAA titles and put some R/D into a online community.

Maybe start bringing back some classic series we haven't seen for a while.

They need to prove to people that they are really trying to be a hardcore gaming company, not some kiddy gimmic company

 

[Liquid]

What the need to do is just develop a PC based system, let third party developers eat, and trim down the fat( new Mario bros, Mario sports titles, mii gimmic titles, remakes, etc.)

Focus on just their AAA titles and put some R/D into a online community.

Maybe start bringing back some classic series we haven't seen for a while.

They need to prove to people that they are really trying to be a hardcore gaming company, not some kiddy gimmic company

I don't think Nintendo cares about investing into an online community and I think I have talked about it here before, but here is how I think Nintendo operates. Its mostly based on how they have ran the company forever.

They have 4 bulletproof franchises in Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Pokemon. They basically just have to use those characters in their own titles and other spinoff titles and are always guaranteed success...its been proven for 20+ years already. Why? Because its the same argument that I keep having with people as to which is the best Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Metroid, and other games in their franchises - Your first is usually the one you hold closest to your chest. From the age of 5-13 or so there is your chance to experience your first GREAT Nintendo franchise and it will always remain a fond memory to you until you die. After that first great experience? They have hooked you forever...they eat off sales from people such as myself who won't buy a Nintendo console as their main gaming machine anymore, but will buy it to check out those 4 bulletproof franchises named above. They don't have to sell much to me or many people in my age group because chances are Mario 3 hooked us forever. I sometimes think Nintendo rather stay a small company instead of expanding...that might be their strategy at the end of the day. I just don't think they need hardware to do it anymore, why even risk it? They don't even make a profit off each Wii U sold at this point.

Sony or Microsoft will never have that space due to the games they develop. I think Sony and Naughty Dog had a possibility for a bulletproof franchise in Crash Bandicoot, but they threw that out the window and Activision doesn't seem interested in using Crash ANYWHERE these days...he is not even in PS All-Stars

 

[Champion]

What the need to do is just develop a PC based system, let third party developers eat, and trim down the fat( new Mario bros, Mario sports titles, mii gimmic titles, remakes, etc.)

Focus on just their AAA titles and put some R/D into a online community.

Maybe start bringing back some classic series we haven't seen for a while.

They need to prove to people that they are really trying to be a hardcore gaming company, not some kiddy gimmic company

This isnt easy though.

Specs won't really help Nintendo.
One of their biggest problems is their niche fans. Most of them don't buy anything that isn't done in house from Nintendo. The Gamecube had power and lacked 3rd party and the Wii struggled too.

 

[Wild self]

I don't think Nintendo cares about investing into an online community and I think I have talked about it here before, but here is how I think Nintendo operates. Its mostly based on how they have ran the company forever.

They have 4 bulletproof franchises in Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Pokemon. They basically just have to use those characters in their own titles and other spinoff titles and are always guaranteed success...its been proven for 20+ years already. Why? Because its the same argument that I keep having with people as to which is the best Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Metroid, and other games in their franchises - Your first is usually the one you hold closest to your chest. From the age of 5-13 or so there is your chance to experience your first GREAT Nintendo franchise and it will always remain a fond memory to you until you die. After that first great experience? They have hooked you forever...they eat off sales from people such as myself who won't buy a Nintendo console as their main gaming machine anymore, but will buy it to check out those 4 bulletproof franchises named above. They don't have to sell much to me or many people in my age group because chances are Mario 3 hooked us forever. I sometimes think Nintendo rather stay a small company instead of expanding...that might be their strategy at the end of the day. I just don't think they need hardware to do it anymore, why even risk it? They don't even make a profit off each Wii U sold at this point.

Sony or Microsoft will never have that space due to the games they develop. I think Sony and Naughty Dog had a possibility for a bulletproof franchise in Crash Bandicoot, but they threw that out the window and Activision doesn't seem interested in using Crash ANYWHERE these days...he is not even in PS All-Stars

Now that I think about it, Crash is MIA for the last 5 years . Someone said that he could have taken out Sonic in his prime, but now he ghost.

 

[NZA]

I don't think Nintendo would have a flattop if they just focused on games and drop the console hardware division all together.

Their first party titles are still great.

a lot of nintendo fanboys are saying that if they drop out of hardware, their software will suffer. they think it is all or nothing. i dont have an opinion, i think it's hard to tell how nintendo would fare. it seems obvious that they are struggling with making great AAA HD games for some reason. i suspect 3DS development is eating up more resources than expected. iwata just recently admitted that pikmin 3 development was understaffed until recently.

 

[Liquid]

a lot of nintendo fanboys are saying that if they drop out of hardware, their software will suffer. they think it is all or nothing. i dont have an opinion, i think it's hard to tell how nintendo would fare. it seems obvious that they are struggling with making great AAA HD games for some reason. i suspect 3DS development is eating up more resources than expected. iwata just recently admitted that pikmin 3 development was understaffed until recently.

Nintendo fanboys are like Apple fanboys to me. They live in their own bubble.

Just think about this logically, how can it possible suffer? If this was an argument about fragmentation I would agree if the console space was like phones in which some android developers have to account for hundreds and maybe even thousands of devices to ensure 100% compatibility. Nintendo dropping hardware and developing on the PS4 and Nextbox is only 2 consoles in which the architecture will be very similar this time around and remain static for 6-8 years now.

I think it made sense for Nintendo to stay in the hardware business because they were actually profiting off each system sold until the Wii U was released. Now that they are losing a bit off each sold what is the benefit on their end? Its highly unlikely they will gain the #1 spot and their 3rd party support has been a mess for decades now. Its not like they are going to recoup a whole lot of that potentially lost revenue stream through strong software sales outside of their core games or accessories either...hell they don't even sell a second gamepad

 

[hex]

Nintendo will never put their shyt on other consoles. They got too much pride. You guys need to read how obsessively competitive some of the guys at Nintendo are, especially the older ones. They'd never fukk with MS because it's an American company and they definitely ain't gonna fukk with Sony because of the old school Playstation beef. A lot of people forgot that Playstation was supposed to be a SNES add on, Nintendo dropped out of the deal at the last minute, and Sony basically developed the PS1 as a "fukk you" to Nintendo. The "FF7" coup didn't help relations between the two companies, either. Nintendo and Sony got real animosity for each other.

They'd drop out of the console market for a while, maybe forever, and continue to cake off portables.

Fred.

 

[Champion]

Why are some of you so adamant about Nintendo not making hardware? Even the biggest Nintendo naysayers aren't this crazy
Sega fukked up several times before they had to drop out.

a lot of nintendo fanboys are saying that if they drop out of hardware, their software will suffer. they think it is all or nothing. i dont have an opinion, i think it's hard to tell how nintendo would fare. it seems obvious that they are struggling with making great AAA HD games for some reason. i suspect 3DS development is eating up more resources than expected. iwata just recently admitted that pikmin 3 development was understaffed until recently.

They've been on SD forever and obviously underestimated the cost and labor. Which is inexcusable since the move to HD happened almost a decade ago.

Nintendo is cheap and likes to ball on a budget. That Wii fool's gold gave them false hope and now they're paying for it.

 

[Liquid]

Now that I think about it, Crash is MIA for the last 5 years . Someone said that he could have taken out Sonic in his prime, but now he ghost.

Crash Bandicoot was about to become the Mario on Sony platforms and they completely dropped the ball. What a HUGE loss.

Maybe we can see Crash in the next Call of Duty map pack

 

[NZA]

Nintendo will never put their shyt on other consoles. They got too much pride. You guys need to read how obsessively competitive some of the guys at Nintendo are, especially the older ones. They'd never fukk with MS because it's an American company and they definitely ain't gonna fukk with Sony because of the old school Playstation beef. A lot of people forgot that Playstation was supposed to be a SNES add on, Nintendo dropped out of the deal at the last minute, and Sony basically developed the PS1 as a "fukk you" to Nintendo. The "FF7" coup didn't help relations between the two companies, either. Nintendo and Sony got real animosity for each other.

They'd drop out of the console market for a while, maybe forever, and continue to cake off portables.

Fred.

they wont stop making consoles until the business model is proven to no longer work for them. they will probably quietly write this generation off like they did with the gamecube and then attempt to rectify some of the flaws with the following generation

and on the american relations, the more desperate they get, the more they will rely on retro studios. i think right before their console business is a bout to die, they will start throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the market, including more high profile games made by retro, more outsourcing to companies like team ninja, and more crossover games like the upcoming fire emblem.

 

[Rain]

Imma need ya'll stop bringing up Crash about right fukking now

Spoiler

 

[hex]

they wont stop making consoles until the business model is proven to no longer work for them. they will probably quietly write this generation off like they did with the gamecube and then attempt to rectify some of the flaws with the following generation

and on the american relations, the more desperate they get, the more they will rely on retro studios. i think right before their console business is a bout to die, they will start throwing everything but the kitchen sink at the market, including more high profile games made by retro, more outsourcing to companies like team ninja, and more crossover games like the upcoming fire emblem.

I doubt they'll ever stop making consoles. I was speaking hypothetically about if it were to happen, they would never port their shyt to MS and Sony.

Look at Sony. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they had the highest selling console of all time with the PS2, then squandered all that money and more on the PS3. Yet there is a PS4.

Nintendo is coming off one of the highest selling consoles of all time with the Wii. They got a big enough war chest that, worst case scenario, they can write off the Wii-U.

I really don't give a fukk as long as we get a new "Zelda", a new "Mario", and hopefully another Retro "Metroid" title.

Fred.

 

[up in here]

Nintendo games on non-Nintendo consoles is a fools dream. That ain't ever gonna happen. I don't know why these kids stay wishing on that. That's like having Jedi's on Star Trek. Some things will forever be separate

 

[Swiggy]

Imma need ya'll stop bringing up Crash about right fukking now

Spoiler

He's coming back

But how you gonna skip him 2 consoles?

Naw, tho. Nintendo games ain't gonna be on XBLA or PSN. shyt's ignorant. Nintendo gonna ride out consoles whether they successful or not. Their handheld game will keep them in the green.