No amount of budgeting and not eating out is going to make up for the fact that we don't make enough money.

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So if they did all the right things why are most of us collectively still struggling? All that saving means nothing if you aren't passing on the knowledge to the next generation of how to do the same. Many of our predecessors were on some, "I figured it out on my own, you'll do it too if you wanna make it." Why are ppl acting as if many of our own families don't put us into debt? Adding bills in children's names. Parents expecting teenagers to foot adult responsibilities. Yet we wonder why people spend money on frivolous stuff.

I'm convinced many of y'all love wagging a finger while purposely choosing to ignore soft but very real factors that influence our ability to build and maintain wealth.

This isn't always the case. So saying "a lot" is a reach here. I can easily say that a lot of black predecessors put their kids in good situations and they fcked it up. There are countless stories of parents leaving their kids homes and they jacked it off. This situation goes both ways.
 

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In the last 2 years home prices have went up $200k plus, nikkas rent have almost doubled. You see the prices of used cars! If you was already budgeting at those prices you have zero chance making it now. He’s right, them Jordan’s, that iphone, and occasionally enjoying yourself would have no affect on that. shyt escalated too quickly.


But this is the coli so I know how this thread will go. nikkas think canceling that gym membership and their Hulu subscription will make a difference.


This is the real Coi Leray,this is what thecoli has been waiting for:wow:
 

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Y’all confuse bootstraps with “what you gonna do about it”

Bootstraps would say all you have to do is work harder and everything will be fine

Other people agree, yes there is a problem that hard work ain’t gonna solve for everyone…… BUT what are you gonna do about it?


There are many problems in life which the answer and solution is obvious. But in reality, it ain’t gonna fukking happen so what’s the next plan? Cause you still got to live, work and survive. So you gonna complain and hope cacs change things or go ahead and make your own moves so your family will be straight?

I stay on my grind and live rather frugally. I won't be hurting unless I lose my job and can't find another for like a complete year.


that being said I am also an empath and realize that not everyone is me and shouldn't be me, so being able to afford basic luxuries if you are going to work yourself isn't a cardinal sin. Everything is ridiculously more expensive now and jobs are not paying more so what is the solution for those who were barely making it beforehand other than to kill themselves working. its not sustainable. You see why them asian countries have insane suicide rates.
 

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I stay on my grind and live rather frugally. I won't be hurting unless I lose my job and can't find another for like a complete year.


that being said I am also an empath and realize that not everyone is me and shouldn't be me, so being able to afford basic luxuries if you are going to work yourself isn't a cardinal sin. Everything is ridiculously more expensive now and jobs are not paying more so what is the solution for those who were barely making it beforehand other than to kill themselves working. its not sustainable. You see why them asian countries have insane suicide rates.
I agree with everything you just said. And this country will reach a boiling point. But rich people and politicians have shown you clear as day, they don’t care. We’ve all seen the reports, the studies, the memes and the protests. And they pass more laws to favor the rich like it didn’t even happen.


More bytching ain’t gonna solve the problem. And I don’t honestly know what will besides a damn revolution. Because the rich also somehow have the poor on their side too, constantly voting for this shyt
 

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This isn't always the case. So saying "a lot" is a reach here. I can easily say that a lot of black predecessors put their kids in good situations and they picked it up. There are countless stories of parents leaving their kid's homes and they jacked it off. This situation goes both ways.
"A lot" is subjective but let's flush that out. Sure, to your point some parents do put their children into a position to win. However, there are far more parents who do not, unfortunately and we see the results in our community. This argument that parents are teaching kids how to value holding on to money yet we don't listen is silly because majority of every other group is instilling those values and yet we don't see majority of other groups in debt like us. So even if parents are doing this, there's a gap in our community. Collectively we don't move in a uniform manner so the few parents who do this, are drops in the bucket...

People keep harping on people buying frivolous stuff but traveling isn't always frivolous. Enjoying life experiences and seeing the world lasts far longer than a pair of shoes. But still, I'm not going to tell the next man how to spend his money.

What I am pointing out is this notion in our community that unless you're working like a racehorse and saving, saving, saving, you're not doing enough.

If a breh is saving for a down payment on a house (cutting back on entertainment etc) what does he do when he gets a flat tire or any other unexpected expense? He digs into it because most people are not making enough to have liquid cash on hand ti handle unexpected expenses. All the money you save eventually gets spent. People with more wealth get to live off the interest while others pull from the principle. I strongly dislike putting out the narrative that suggests saving as this God-like power. There's a balance to everything in life.
 

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It takes money to make money. The best way to save is simply to make more money. You wont save or budget yourself out of poverty. If it was that easy everyone would do it.

If all you can save is something like $100 a month then it is literally pointless and you are wasting your time. Enjoy your starbucks or whatever with your few extra bucks per month and focus on getting more education and a higher income.
 

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"A lot" is subjective but let's flush that out. Sure, to your point some parents do put their children into a position to win. However, there are far more parents who do not, unfortunately and we see the results in our community. This argument that parents are teaching kids how to value holding on to money yet we don't listen is silly because majority of every other group is instilling those values and yet we don't see majority of other groups in debt like us. So even if parents are doing this, there's a gap in our community. Collectively we don't move in a uniform manner so the few parents who do this, are drops in the bucket...

People keep harping on people buying frivolous stuff but traveling isn't always frivolous. Enjoying life experiences and seeing the world lasts far longer than a pair of shoes. But still, I'm not going to tell the next man how to spend his money.

What I am pointing out is this notion in our community that unless you're working like a racehorse and saving, saving, saving, you're not doing enough.

If a breh is saving for a down payment on a house (cutting back on entertainment etc) what does he do when he gets a flat tire or any other unexpected expense? He digs into it because most people are not making enough to have liquid cash on hand ti handle unexpected expenses. All the money you save eventually gets spent. People with more wealth get to live off the interest while others pull from the principle. I strongly dislike putting out the narrative that suggests saving as this God-like power. There's a balance to everything in life.

I guess. People have been going through hard times since the beginning of time, why this era is so hard is beyond me. I keep saying social media fcked up a generations perspective on life. What's happening now is nothing new. Those who move carefully usually make it through.
 

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The cost of living has gone up astronomically in the past 3 years. Wages haven't. But of course the blame goes to the proletariat and not the system that took advantage of people during the pandemic.

I just walked out the supermarket paying 5.99 for a box of fukking corn flakes.
Shoulda got the bagged flakes breh

:troll:
 

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Watch people who want shyt but don't want to grind to get it. In their minds they believe people who have things must have it easy. People out here working two jobs with overtime to do the things they want. Yet you got people who thumb they nose at hard work but still want things.
 

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Save $1,000 for your starter emergency fund.
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Pay off all debt (except the house) using the debt snowball.
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dave ramsey's one size fits all for saving and accumulating wealth does not work for quite a number of people.

most people are not able to pay their bills while saving 15% for retirement and funding a college fund. not to mention having a 3-6 month emergency fund. all while paying off ur crib early. his baby steps are kinda antiquated and out of touch if u ask me. some things dave ramsey says, I agree with, but not all. for instance he doesn't believe in credit cards, which is the opposite of what I believe. I want to pay everything with my credit cards, that way I'm getting 3-5% cash back for every transaction. he also believes in paying everything cash if possible. back when car and home loans were extremely cheap, it was more advantageous to use excess cash for investing because the rate of return is much greater than the cost of borrowing.
 
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