No, Hope Solo Is Not "Like" Ray Rice

[T.he I.nformant]

Some scorned ass brehs in here

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Nah dog....you want these numbers to be the same so you can make a case that things are "the same."

That's a terrible graph, and it reminds me of a shytty argument a safety driving instructor tried to make using fatalities on the road versus fatalities in those wars. Common sense will tell you a soldier at war is in more danger than women in the states and numbers will tell you this too, as long as you are looking at them correctly. The crux of it being their are far more women with husbands/boyfriends/ex's than their are soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan (war on terror is overblown, so you won't hear an argument from me about that one being less of a threat).

However, I do agree that Hope (and female-male violence) is not comparable to Rice (and male-female violence). Male to female is a more troubling epidemic.


But why are we even talking about Rice??? She didn't hit her husband/boyfriend. She hit family. In this case, I think it IS comparable to AD. If you think AD should be deactivated right now, and your pulling your sponsorship from him, then you should be viewing Hope in the same light.

 

[OG Talk]

Double standards exist in society and men and women aren't equal...

I don't see why this thread is stickied...

 

[mastermind]

you're a known fakkit in the dc area, the nigerian tranny is what they call you. go get robbed in your front yard again nikka

id like you to say this in my face one day.

Most of the people calling for rice's and goodell's head aren't nfl fans either

The article claims its the media's fault while doing exactly what the "media" has done. Downplay one while over exaggerating the other.

I dont think Hope Solo's incident was downplayed at all by Coates. He clearly says she should be punished.

The issue is that people are attempting to make Hope Solo= Ray Rice, and in turn pretending domestic violence is equal between men and women when that has never been hte case.

 

[jilla82]

Wait...yall really trying to pretend that Women abusing Men is the same as men abusing women?


People really have issues w/ seeing that everything isnt so black & white.
I kind of agree that there should be one way to govern all issues...but there clearly is a difference.
I bet 90% of the coli thinks saying CAC is different than a white person saying nikka

 

[BlackAchilles]

I mean I get what Coates is saying and all.

What pisses me off though is the extreme disparity between Rice and AD being shunned by everybody for their crimes vs. Nike and the US football assosciation basically telling everyone to fukk off for complaining that they support violent neanderthals like Hope Solo.

To me it goes back to society's fixation with the black man as a violent brute, and I'm sure I don't have to remind y'all how much that hurts us in everyday life.

 

[TheNig]

If you let a woman abuse you, you a hoe ass nikka.

 

[dem bath salts]

I've been consistent with how I think Ray Rice should have got suspended for half a year or more.
But I find it unfair how none of these new DV cases are being judged on their own.
It's like nikkas got face the history of men hitting women now. foh with that.
Ray shouldnt be judged on all the beats women have took in the past.

 

[JBoy]

West Indian creole makes everything that much funnier
haven't really heard the details of this Hope Solo incident so I can't really judge the differences between the two, any of y'all got links on that case

 

[OG Talk]

Wasn't one of the victims Hope attacked a minor though? If anything she's like Adrian Peterson...

 

[Easy-E]

My issue is with Nike fronting like they carry core principles in punishing AD while displaying its selective nature in giving Solo a pass.

Does it somehow exclude men for years having their foots on the necks of women? No. But let's call out Nike for who they are....a company that's allowed itself to be steered in the direction of whats on the public's radar, not a company that carries a just honor code that reverberates throughout the company.

Should we call out Nike or the people who buy into that nonsense...the nonsense they askedfor?

People kill me with that "he should come out and condemn..." and when they do..."he's being fake."



People are more concerned with their football and keeping athletes in this "role model" boxes, than they are concerned about their real daughters.

Some thing with Ferguson. People are more concerned with callin' their favorite rapper/actor "real" for speaking up, than actually gettin' the problem solved.

That's why I'm called a "c00n" for suggesting; it doesn't matter what Nelly thinks, until the black electorate economically strengthens itself, and demands change--at the expense of the jobs of these politicians--we will go through the same thing over and over.

And the evidence is the amount of similar incidents that's happened since Mike Brown's and Eric Garner's death. But, Nah, we need Jay-Z opinion on this matter.


People demand this pony show and complain about the smell. Of course the NFL & Nike aren't vanguards for domestic violence. It's hurting business, now and ppl want the blood of two and three characters. All the while there's evidence of a BAL Ravens coverup...

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I dont think Hope Solo's incident was downplayed at all by Coates. He clearly says she should be punished.

He frames it as a simple family feud, when we don't know if that is in fact the truth. He just assumes that she didn't "pummel" her family because she's a woman. But has no problem claiming ray rice pummeled his wife even though we know that is NOT true.

The issue is that people are attempting to make Hope Solo= Ray Rice, and in turn pretending domestic violence is equal between men and women when that has never been hte case.

Ray rice=Hope sole from a legal and employment standpoint. If one should loose their job and endorsements then so should the other.

And I have not seen anyone pretend domestic violence is equal between men and women. What I have seen is people say that consequences should be equal. And they should.

The entire women's rights movement is about fairness and equality. Well how can you call for fairness and equality for one situation, while advocating for a double standard in another? As a man how can I fully support this movement when I know they will throw my rights and equality in the bushes as soon as they don't fit in with the agenda?

 

[FTBS]

Women assaulting men is (generally) not the same as a men assaulting a woman. It's just mighty funny how the PC/equality police have no problem with this double standard though.

US Women's Soccer is not the same as the NFL.

Attacking sibling/nephew is not the same or as assaulting a spouse.

Did this mothafukka really compare wife-beating to fukking lynching? Did this mothafukka really try to act like there are somehow more palatable means of killing a person? I get the point that there are levels to things, however taking it to killing just completely goes over the edge.

 

[mastermind]

He frames it as a simple family feud, when we don't know if that is in fact the truth. He just assumes that she didn't "pummel" her family because she's a woman. But has no problem claiming ray rice pummeled his wife even though we know that is NOT true.

he never said that.

Ray rice=Hope sole from a legal and employment standpoint. If one should loose their job and endorsements then so should the other.

And I have not seen anyone pretend domestic violence is equal between men and women. What I have seen is people say that consequences should be equal. And they should.

The entire women's rights movement is about fairness and equality. Well how can you call for fairness and equality for one situation, while advocating for a double standard in another? As a man how can I fully support this movement when I know they will throw my rights and equality in the bushes as soon as they don't fit in with the agenda?

from a legal standpoint, Ray Rice was facing 5 years in prison while Hope Solo is facing max a year so they arent the same.

But more than anything, the Hope Solo should be punished. Nike should have dropped her. I dont see Coates' article disagreeing with that at all. And the articles on Hope Solo's still playing for hte US team was actually written by women. In fact, the article Coates' cites is written by a woman.

Did this mothafukka really compare wife-beating to fukking lynching? Did this mothafukka really try to act like there are somehow more palatable means of killing a person? I get the point that there are levels to things, however taking it to killing just completely goes over the edge.

he clearly didnt



a lot of you are reading what you want to see instead of actually reading the article.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

he never said that.


from a legal standpoint, Ray Rice was facing 5 years in prison while Hope Solo is facing max a year so they arent the same.

But more than anything, the Hope Solo should be punished. Nike should have dropped her. I dont see Coates' article disagreeing with that at all. And the articles on Hope Solo's still playing for hte US team was actually written by women. In fact, the article Coates' cites is written by a woman.

Yes he did
"Ray Rice did not so much "brawl with his family" as he pummeled his fiancé into unconsciousness."

Different states, laws, judges, ect. But both were charged with domestic abuse. Ray rice was only given a diversion program so obviously the legal system saw it as a mistake with a reasonable chance for rehabilitation. Which is the same way the nfl should treat it, but they aren't do to Internet outrage.

So why doesn't the author or you support a narrative that "yeah ray rice should be suspended dropped but..........."

That's an easy cop out. That's like saying "yeah darren wilson should get charged with murder, but with the history of violence with black teens I can understand why he isn't"

That's bullshyt domestic violence is domestic violence. If we are holding public figures to certain standards then those standards shouldn't change with sex.