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[JustCKing]

Unpredictable ( shipped 1x) but it didn't sell 1 million (there's copies left over)

Tru 2 da Game (shipped 2x) but it didn't sell 2 million (There's copies left over)

I'm bout (shipped 500k, I think) but it didn't sell 500k

Unlady Like (shipped 500k according to some) but didn't sell 500k

How do you know those albums sold what it shipped in 97??

There's copies left over, P AND the artists have to eat that cost, which

Actual numbers taken from Soundscan are posted in this thread for some of these albums.

The label (Priority) eats those costs because they were the distributors. So P ended up owing them because it cost them. Their 15-20% came from being distributors which was making sure albums were on shelves.

 

[JustCKing]

If he was borderline selling Ghetto D, borderline means 2.5 or 2.6

Why ship another 1x? in 2006?

Why not ship the x borderline number 500k to push Ghetto D to 3x


2 million shipped is not borderline neither, that's why I said 2.5 and above

They shippped more because the album was re-released.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

They shippped more because the album was re-released.

They shipped 1x in August 2006

What date was the album re-released? What day did the album come out?

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Actual numbers taken from Soundscan are posted in this thread for some of these albums.

The label (Priority) eats those costs because they were the distributors. So P ended up owing them because it cost them. Their 15-20% came from being distributors which was making sure albums were on shelves.

Which goes back to my previous posts.

P makes no money if the when the Soundscan numbers doesn't add up with the numbers of albums "shipped"

Why would P continue to have Priority "ship" many copies (within a months time) when the albums are not selling??

Why would he even have these artist to do a "second" album when their first album has put him in the red?

He's losing money

Make that make sense

 

[JustCKing]

They shipped 1x in August 2006

What date was the album re-released? What day did the album come out?

You don't get it. A cerification doesn't mean that is the date they shipped additional copies to the stores. It also doesn't mean they shipped an additional 1 million stores on THAT date. That certification date is that date that it was certified that a total of 3 million copies had been shipped since the original release date of the album. They may have only shipped a few hundred thousand of the re-release. Who knows?

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Actual numbers taken from Soundscan are posted in this thread for some of these albums.

The label (Priority) eats those costs because they were the distributors. So P ended up owing them because it cost them. Their 15-20% came from being distributors which was making sure albums were on shelves.

Cost them?

What does this mean? Every album is not going to sell, this is with "any" company, and I'll ask you the same thing I asked ole boy, how would a label and the artists make money if they have to pay back on the albums that weren't sold?

 

[JustCKing]

Which goes back to my previous posts.

P makes no money if the when the Soundscan numbers doesn't add up with the numbers of albums "shipped"

Why would P continue to have Priority "ship" many copies (within a months time) when the albums are not selling??

Why would he even have these artist to do a "second" album when their first album has put him in the red?

He's losing money

Make that make sense

P still makes money because he had an 80% deal. He makes money off album sales. Priority had to press up those albums, which costs. They only made 15-20% off profits from albums. If the retailers are charging Priority for the albums left over they take a loss, which means its them not making money. So they sued.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

You don't get it. A cerification doesn't mean that is the date they shipped additional copies to the stores. It also doesn't mean they shipped an additional 1 million stores on THAT date. That certification date is that date that it was certified that a total of 3 million copies had been shipped since the original release date of the album. They may have only shipped a few hundred thousand of the re-release. Who knows?

Re-read your previous posts


You said, Ghetto D hit 3x in August 2006. It's sitting at 3x on August 2006, You said it was bordering sitting under 3x


You stated that the anniversary album came out in 2006


I asked you when the re-release of the album dropped? You never answered the question

 

[JustCKing]

Cost them?

What does this mean? Every album is not going to sell, this is with "any" company, and I'll ask you the same thing I asked ole boy, how would a label and the artists make money if they have to pay back on the albums that weren't sold?

This isn't the same with every company because nobody else had an 80/20 split like P had with Priority. Other labels do far more than distribute music. They make money off record sales. Because of Master P's unique deal, Priority lost money.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

P still makes money because he had an 80% deal. He makes money off album sales. Priority had to press up those albums, which costs. They only made 15-20% off profits from albums. If the retailers are charging Priority for the albums left over they take a loss, which means its them not making money. So they sued.

I already did the make from P and it doesn't add up to what you nor ole boy are saying. P wouldn't see any money from album sales.

The albums that supposedly sold, yall made mentioned that those albums in 98 did not sell what was "shipped" which means albums were sent back, which means P and the artist had to eat the cost.

P and his artists would be dayum near broke off their 1st album run

 

[JustCKing]

Re-read what your previous posts


You said, Ghetto D hit 3x in August 2006. It's sitting at 3x on August 2006, You said it was bordering sitting under 3x


You stated that the anniversary album came out in 2006


I asked you when the re-release of the album dropped? You never answered the question

I was mistaken on this. The first re-release dropped May 2007, not 2006. There was a second one that dropped in 2010.

 

[JustCKing]

I already did the make from P and it doesn't add up to what you nor ole boy are saying. P wouldn't see any money from album sales.

The albums that supposedly sold, yall made mentioned that those albums in 98 did not sell what was "shipped" which means albums were sent back, which means P and the artist had to eat the cost.

P and his artists would be dayum near broke off their 1st album run

And you are still not getting it. P made 80% of the profits sold. He was already paid. Priority made only 20%. P nor the artists eat the costs because Priority was the distributor.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

I was mistaken on this. The first re-release dropped May 2007, not 2006. There was a second one that dropped in 2010.

You're all over the place and what you're saying is BS and a big reach

Go back and re-read your posts on how you said RIAA turns around within a month and ships out another 1x....you made mentioned of that and compare it to the post you made on this page about saying that doesn't mean that the albums were "shipped" on that date
Smh

Simple logic breaks down BS dude


Ghetto D hit 3x in August 2006,

A total of 3x has been shipped, The re-release has not been put out yet with the additional songs.


How many albums were "shipped" for the May 2007 for the re-release??

 

[Alvin]

The debt didn't start because he was PAID for those shipments. He didn't owe anything until Priority was charged for the copies that weren't sold. The reason this didn't occur in 1997 and 1998 is because a lot of those albums sold. In 1997, No Limit ain't drop 23 albums. In 1998, they dropped 23 albums and there were a lot of C and D level artists who dropped an album that year.

Someone told me they did that because they were going to re-do the deal in 99, might be why BBTP wanted to attempt to renegotiate, because maybe they felt like the deal when first made in 94-95 they didn't imagine the label would be where it was at in 98.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

And you are still not getting it. P made 80% of the profits sold. He was already paid. Priority made only 20%. P nor the artists eat the costs because Priority was the distributor.

I get simple math, you looking at 80% and thinking money is made instead of breaking down what you're posting

500k - 200k is sold

$10.00 x 200k + 2 million plus his 250k advance (P's take home from off 200k sold)

$3.00 x 200k = 600,000 (Priority's take home) - 250k yields them 350,000

300k was not sold (who eats this cost)?? and if so, do the math to that just at $10.00, I won't even do it at the actual cost of the CD

This is just for 500k being 'shipped'

You and ole dude said P was "shipping" 1x and 2x million and they wasn't selling, so again, How is P AND the artist making money in 1998 when the albums are not selling with what is being shipped?

Simple logic doesn't see your statement about P having 80%, that doesn't mean nothing when you start plugging in numbers dude


AS I TOLD OLE BOY, YOU DON"T HIT FORBS LIST LIKE THIS


Something isn't adding up with what yall are projecting, IF NL was lying about their sales, and how P's contract was setup, then P and his artists are dead broke from just their 1st album run alone?