No Love Lost, Yall Die ..., Cavaliers vs. Hawks ECF Thread

Who wins, heads to the finals


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Yes, I re-upped the thread because I was proven right. You think I would have re-upped it if I had been proven wrong? :mjlol:

But I was proven right on two counts, with one unprovable one left:

1) I was proven right when the Cavs sat Kyrie, when you were claiming he couldn't get any more injured than he already was and he needed to keep playing to "get his rhythm back".

2) I was proven right when I said the Cavs would be better off without him because he couldn't drive or play defense. They're up 3-0, guards are playing fine, and Teague isn't dominating like he was when Kyrie was guarding him in the begining of Game 1.

3) The Cavs are obviously going to be more ready for the Warriors with Kyrie sitting out these games than they would be with him doing further damage to the legs instead of letting them heal...and they'd have been even better off if they had shut him down in the 1st half of Game 1 like I'd initially said they should have.

If you think the Cavs are better off without Kyrie Irving you're an idiot. It wouldn't have even taken OT if he was healthy
 
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You swinging the ball with guys who have never been known to close the deal when it counts, or be consistent....

Kind of like Atlanta..... Hence, their piss poor performance in the finals.... Would've been the same if Korver was playing

This slow stupid mothafukkas can't get it through his head that this is a totally new team with dudes with little exp.

Dude just wants to hate. I say ignore that fool brotha Vescey.
And Brons going ISO possession after possession in the clutch (when he was limping/fatigued nonetheless) is more beneficial to the team, rather than sticking to a formula that worked throughout not only this game but the entire playoffs (generating more points from moving the ball)? The same shyt happened in Game 1 when Bron 'stopped the ball' in the last five minutes of the 4th quarter where he went 1 out of 6.

Yes, we all understand that he needs to step up without Kyrie and Love, and there'll be times where he needs to take over, but not at the price of 'stopping the ball' to a team-deficit; crippling the flow of the offense and becoming predictable. Which is what happened in this last game, Game 1 and most of the Bulls series where he shot 39%.

He did this throughout the regular season (so miss with this this totally new team with dudes with little experience bullshyt) and he's been doing it for at least the last few seasons. I brought this up simply because of -

Kyrie gonna have to get his ass right for the Finals. The Cavs gonna be food if Bron just keeps ball-stopping late in-games. Some of the shyt he did tonight was :huhldup:

I guess it's gonna take a series against the Warriors to see that what I'm saying isn't hating. :manny:

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It's not going to work any more because teams have figured it out. I like Lebron but creativity and figuring out defenses is not his strength. He faced an excellent defensive team in the Bulls, and the had him shooting like shyt. THey won because of defense and offensive rebounding. I watched them lose big leads in 4th quarters in that series as wel.

Hawks are another great defensive team. There defense was almost automatic when ISO bron started, except when they played him too damn close.

If he faces the warriors next round, ISO Bron is gonna get the cavs swept.

Swing the fukking ball!
This ISO Bron offense in the 4th quarter is mindblowingly stupid. Thanks to the spurs, every team has figured it out. Every team knows what Lebron is going to do. He gets largely bad shots or gets stripped while his teammates stand around. Why the goddamn fukk does he insist on that stupid shyt?

That game got way too close as soon as Iso-Bron started. I always blamed Spoelstra for that offense in Miami. IT was Lebron and SPoelstra since they're both still doing it.
It was funny watching game 4 of cavs/bulls. Jackson was extolling the virtues of ISO-ball in 4th quarters as the Cavs offense stagnated and Lebron was easily predicted on almost ever play except the last one.
It reminded me of when LeBron wanted to go ISO after Wade put the Heat up 18 against the Mavs in the finals.

Bron was trying to get his stats and it cost them game. May have cost them that series.

I know why he does that. He'd rather have everybody talking about him going ISO too much than not being aggressive at all. After that game against the Mavs he went passive and got killed for it. Eventually he figured out the proper balance in Miami. Hopefully he figures it out in Cleveland.
If every single play in the last 4 minutes is going to be Lebron holding the ball for 20 seconds, then the opposing team is going to be locked in. Everybody should have noticed that Lebron in the clutch the last 2 seasons (in the playoffs) is getting a high number of turnovers thanks to strips, deflections, offensive fouls. He's strong and fast but he's predictable.

And I was seeing ISO bron in 4th quarters even with a healthy Kyrie :francis:
 
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If you think the Cavs are better off without Kyrie Irving you're an idiot. It wouldn't have even taken OT if he was healthy
Nah he doesn't think that - the argument revolves around misconstrued statements of when Kyrie should have/shouldn't have played, how 'healthy' he is/was and how the Cavs should've used him [from the beginning of the series].
 
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Yo where has love been? Haven't seen his face at all and his team is in the conference finals.

Crazy too Lebron still make simple mistakes and can't figure out the defense.
Warriors will kill them if he keeps playing like this.
 

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I still can't believe that Blatt trouted out LeBron at center and James Jones at the 4 and it worked.

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He should have attacked the rim more when they went that small. shyt was open every time..

I wonder if thats prep for when the Warriors play Green at Center..
 

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Dudes always say he should attack the rim more smmhhh. Yall let the media shape yall opinion on Lebron being a super athelete that dosent tire. You know how much energy it takes to drive to the rim AND play hard on defense?? For 40 min? And play point center and whatever the fukk else? Yea yall some fukkin nerdy ass lames
 
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