Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"

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I've been wondering, what if Drake isn't even the person that we hear on songs? I know it's a crazy idea but what if he has people that sound just like him rap his songs for him. I'm not saying all the songs but what if just one or two.
That would be some next level shyt...
 

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It's not the lyrics or the writing that bothers me. You can quote all these dusty purist rules of hip hop and I'm not moved. Those are words on a page and while important it's the artist that brings them to life. It's the flow. Never the flow though. :wow:

I listened to the RICO track with Drake and Mills. That shyt was flames. Drake was effortless. Not much excites me musically but even I got hype. Told my girl Drake executed that verse perfectly. :banderas: Then I listened to the reference track. I heard QM's robotic voice executing perfectly. But what hit me though, what really hit me was when he even did the Drake "I'ma sing in the middle of this verse" shyt Drake does. That's something that annoys me about Drake, but hey, it's uniquely Drake, or WAS anyway (:to:) so I would let it slide. But to hear this robot do a Drake signature was like :wow: Yeah, Drake changed a lot of the lyrics but the flow, the flow is the exact same. I used to change lyrics of whole songs and make them about Metro buses. But the flow was already there for me. The flow is most important to me.

I'm not going to burn Drake shirts, proclaim hip hop is dead, devote volumes of text or thought on it, and it probably won't bother me next week. But right now I'm not liking this. Drake doesn't owe his haters anything. fukk them. But he does owe his fans something. Either prove this is your shyt or just be who you are like Kanye. I'll accept it either way. But in some of his true fan's eyes, no matter how good the music is, and it is good, that question will always be there. Is it the flow though?

I'm still really with you though Drake. But for the time being QM is going to have to share these memories. :mjcry:

Im glad a guy I respect is coming to his senses. I literally am from Toronto and I remmeber when I first came back to Toronto for holiday and heard 6 god, i played it non stop in the whip and went CRAZY

Like he was talking about being away from the 6, its hot, gettin money etc... It felt so real

Now in retrospect I feel decieved, but I dont have any hate for Drake. He still put out some legendary music objectively but these questions about his integrity need to be answered out of curiosity... It does matter that he is a fraud. It doesnt matter to my ears, but it matters to my intelligence. I cant in good conscience act like its not a big deal.
 

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Im glad a guy I respect is coming to his senses. I literally am from Toronto and I remmeber when I first came back to Toronto for holiday and heard 6 god, i played it non stop in the whip and went CRAZY

Like he was talking about being away from the 6, its hot, gettin money etc... It felt so real

Now in retrospect I feel decieved, but I dont have any hate for Drake. He still put out some legendary music objectively but these questions about his integrity need to be answered out of curiosity... It does matter that he is a fraud. It doesnt matter to my ears, but it matters to my intelligence. I cant in good conscience act like its not a big deal.

When I heard QM start singing I was like :dwillhuh: ......no, this IS Drake, or was Drake. Drake has to come up with a new flow, start writing for himself and others and even producing. He really has to prove himself now.
 

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When I heard QM start singing I was like :dwillhuh: ......no, this IS Drake, or was Drake. Drake has to come up with a new flow, start writing for himself and others and even producing. He really has to prove himself now.
At the very least, he needs to come out and address this.. Not act like its not a big deal. At least lie and say u already sent dude a written verse and he gave u the flow or something... Do something instead of acting like it never happened. Its insulting
 

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When I heard QM start singing I was like :dwillhuh: ......no, this IS Drake, or was Drake. Drake has to come up with a new flow, start writing for himself and others and even producing. He really has to prove himself now.
How do you think this affects VIEWS FROM THE 6


Like do you think QM was all over it...

Is he gonna scrap it

Is QM gonna be full ghost

Is there a new "QM" for this album


So many questions :ohhh:
 

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It's not the lyrics or the writing that bothers me. You can quote all these dusty purist rules of hip hop and I'm not moved. Those are words on a page and while important it's the artist that brings them to life. It's the flow. Never the flow though. :wow:

I listened to the RICO track with Drake and Mills. That shyt was flames. Drake was effortless. Not much excites me musically but even I got hype. Told my girl Drake executed that verse perfectly. :banderas: Then I listened to the reference track. I heard QM's robotic voice executing perfectly. But what hit me though, what really hit me was when he even did the Drake "I'ma sing in the middle of this verse" shyt Drake does. That's something that annoys me about Drake, but hey, it's uniquely Drake, or WAS anyway (:to:) so I would let it slide. But to hear this robot do a Drake signature was like :wow: Yeah, Drake changed a lot of the lyrics but the flow, the flow is the exact same. I used to change lyrics of whole songs and make them about Metro buses. But the flow was already there for me. The flow is most important to me.

I'm not going to burn Drake shirts, proclaim hip hop is dead, devote volumes of text or thought on it, and it probably won't bother me next week. But right now I'm not liking this. Drake doesn't owe his haters anything. fukk them. But he does owe his fans something. Either prove this is your shyt or just be who you are like Kanye. I'll accept it either way. But in some of his true fan's eyes, no matter how good the music is, and it is good, that question will always be there. Is it the flow though?

I'm still really with you though Drake. But for the time being QM is going to have to share these memories. :mjcry:

Writing lyrics is easy once the flow has been established

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What was better.... Drakes "best i ever had" or my rendition of "best i ever had" celebrating the lakers championship in 2009?

I made that sh*t in like 10 minutes. If somebody gives you the flow and melody they did all the heavy lifting.

Like the esteemed philosopher @Matt504 said, drake doesnt have the melanin level or background to come up with some of these flows that he has displayed. Sory to break the truth to you brother liggins. :mjcry:
 

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How do you think this affects VIEWS FROM THE 6


Like do you think QM was all over it...

Is he gonna scrap it

Is QM gonna be full ghost

Is there a new "QM" for this album


So many questions :ohhh:

He's dropping that album. He's been promoting it as his magnum opus and to scrap it would shred his credibility.
 

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I was watching that Ice cube interview with Breakfast club and I'm really feeling his point of view on the Drake Meek beef, though I know he's been a writer so he might be a bit biased.

If someone is out here just trying to make music, all that's important is the product. Like I've been seeing folks here say, as long as the sausage good, don't matter how it's made. :obama:

But if you start trying to be on some "I'm the best MC, I'll battle anyone" type shyt....You better be writing that shyt
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Writing lyrics is easy once the flow has been established

@Long_Live_The_Kane

What was better.... Drakes "best i ever had" or my rendition of "best i ever had" celebrating the lakers championship in 2009?

I made that sh*t in like 10 minutes. If somebody gives you the flow and melody they did all the heavy lifting.

Like the esteemed philosopher @Matt504 said, drake doesnt have the melanin level or background to come up with some of these flows that he has displayed. Sory to break the truth to you brother liggins. :mjcry:

After playing them back to back Drake's lyrics were better but he already had the blueprint plans laid out. :ohlawd:
 
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