Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"

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This is deeper than Drake. Money is the most important factor and too many mouths are being fed off this. If Drakes fall from grace makes more money, the fall will be huge. If the powers that be feel Drake's midas touch is too valuable to let go, theyll make sure the relatively few "real hip hop fans" are viewed and treated like those old school rock n roll fans
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"Easter egg hunting, they gotta look for something"

Drakes credibility was proven from years of him writing his own raps. It's no secret that on Take Care he took some of The Weeknd's songs and made them his. Same thing was done with QM on IYRTITL. Ya'll just reaching again. Someone make a thread calling out Kanye and Lil Wayne if getting help or ideas for a song is the same as using a ghostwriter. People fail to remember Drakes introduction to the world was by way of Lil Wayne spitting his verse on Money To Blow at the MTV Awards. nikkaz thought it was Wayne's raps. So does that mean that Wayne is not a credible rapper?
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And out of this list....how many of them are claiming to be the best, greatest, and top 5 ? And notice how you only list 1 song per artist. Now, go back and create a new list with all of Drake's written/helped (according to drake nut swingers) songs.

i didnt make that list, it was from a rap blog, THE MARTORIALIST, and the one song was probably done intentionally just to list major songs from people who didnt write their own lyrics. you know... give a variety,,,

i mean, kanye has a well known history of being "helped" by other emcess/producers and credited them just as drake did. you wouldnt consider kanye to be one of the "best, greatest, and top 5?"

tupac used ray luv on several occasions.



has the most number one singles of all time (or is tied with the beatles). :blessed:
has festival for himself and invites some of the biggest names in hip hop, putting on for his city:salute:
destroys career of "battle rapper" meek with back to back:banderas:

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It's not the lyrics or the writing that bothers me. You can quote all these dusty purist rules of hip hop and I'm not moved. Those are words on a page and while important it's the artist that brings them to life. It's the flow. Never the flow though. :wow:

I listened to the RICO track with Drake and Mills. That shyt was flames. Drake was effortless. Not much excites me musically but even I got hype. Told my girl Drake executed that verse perfectly. :banderas: Then I listened to the reference track. I heard QM's robotic voice executing perfectly. But what hit me though, what really hit me was when he even did the Drake "I'ma sing in the middle of this verse" shyt Drake does. That's something that annoys me about Drake, but hey, it's uniquely Drake, or WAS anyway (:to:) so I would let it slide. But to hear this robot do a Drake signature was like :wow: Yeah, Drake changed a lot of the lyrics but the flow, the flow is the exact same. I used to change lyrics of whole songs and make them about Metro buses. But the flow was already there for me. The flow is most important to me.

I'm not going to burn Drake shirts, proclaim hip hop is dead, devote volumes of text or thought on it, and it probably won't bother me next week. But right now I'm not liking this. Drake doesn't owe his haters anything. fukk them. But he does owe his fans something. Either prove this is your shyt or just be who you are like Kanye. I'll accept it either way. But in some of his true fan's eyes, no matter how good the music is, and it is good, that question will always be there. Is it the flow though?

I'm still really with you though Drake. But for the time being QM is going to have to share these memories. :mjcry:

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