Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"
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Uncle_Ruckus
We The North
You're right. Negoleon gotta be #1 for that shyt. Some people are loving the fukkery a lot more than others and took the I have no chill shyt to the next level. The rest are just angry at the transition from old school hip-hop to this new generation shyt.
July and August gonna be worse than the 2014 console wars in the arcadium when the dust finally settles.
You're right. Negoleon gotta be #1 for that shyt. Some people are loving the fukkery a lot more than others and took the I have no chill shyt to the next level. The rest are just angry at the transition from old school hip-hop to this new generation shyt.
See, I can talk to you. These other cats are too far gone. Or should I say, so far gone.
Fred.
Playa With Tha Passport
Mr International
Iv been saying for years dude had a ghostwriter
Wasn't surprised when it came out
Wasn't surprised when it came out
OfTheCross
Veteran
Check the credits.
His last name is Palman.
Show me where another "executive" is on individual song credits..
Lol..this dude penned all Drake's shyt
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@Harry B
Have you checked those credits yet?
This dude vanished like a ghost
The only truth is no one that fukks with Drake music will care and the people claiming this is so bad never like Drake's music in the 1st.
If Ghostwriting(which this is not) was so unspeakable and undoable then there wouldn't even be people that are there to ghostwrite. There have been writing "allegations" for ALOT of rappers and no one has ever cared from Drake to Wayne to Cube to Pac.
The people that care are hoping somehow this will make people stop liking Drake
He is credited for Know yourself and RICO isn't Drakes songMarch 2013?
God who knows how long they've been working with him
And who knows how much material got passed to Drake.
What are the chances that one of Drakes in house producers gives a random s/o to a soundcloud rapper without any affiliation to OVO. No deal. No mention. Nothing.
WhAt are the chances of that rapper being brought to the light as a ghostwriter 2 years later?
That nikka prolly been writing for Drake since NWTS, and before anyone says "drake would have credited him". He didn't credit him for KNOW YOURSELF oR RICO.
So we don't know.
March 2013?
God who knows how long they've been working with him
And who knows how much material got passed to Drake.
What are the chances that one of Drakes in house producers gives a random s/o to a soundcloud rapper without any affiliation to OVO. No deal. No mention. Nothing.
WhAt are the chances of that rapper being brought to the light as a ghostwriter 2 years later?
That nikka prolly been writing for Drake since NWTS, and before anyone says "drake would have credited him". He didn't credit him for KNOW YOURSELF oR RICO.
So we don't know.
These dudes is delusional as fukk.
Started From The Bottom dropped the month before that tweet too
OfTheCross
Veteran
That's not true. It may be true for you because you love him with all your heart. But some people love his music for its "authenticity" and now they may feel jaded.
Rapmastermind
Superstar
Notice how 40 says it. He says it like it's "Hip Hop Law". The reason Drake is in this situation is his arrogant Bars. He loved to tell everyone else why he was the greatest and why they weren't only his level:
"The Throne is for the taken, watch me take it"
"Last Name Ever, First Name Greatest"
"Everything is Drake featuring Drake"
"Maybe I'll help ya'll off the shelf"
Etc, Also even if many of us never had Drake as a Top Emcee, you can't deny there was a media push to put him as a GOAT. The Sprite Billboard/Ad was an example. A few of us even said he's really the Ja Rule/50/T.I./Ludacris teir of Emcee but I honestly can't put him over any of those guys. Also let me remind you of someone:
You'd have no credibility whatsoever, and you'd be out of the window immediately." - Noah 40
In 1990 Vanilla Ice as the biggest rapper in the game. His album was approaching Diamond Status He had the Biggest song in Hip Hop History at the time with "Ice, Ice, Baby" as Rap's 1st #1 Hit. He was getting all the awards and all the props. The Media was saying he changed Hip Hop. Then guess what happen? People found out he had ghostwriters once Queen and David Bowie took him to court over the sample. In the Lawsuit it was discovered that Vanilla Ice didn't write his rhymes. People also found out he lied about his upbringing. He was immediately BANISHED From Hip Hop. Cause Vanilla Ice was fronting about this bars and got caught.
Now I won't call Drake Vanilla Ice but he was fronting about his Bars. The debate never was "Are there Ghostwriters", people kept moving the goal post trying to change the points we were making. Biggie has a Lil Kim and 2 Junior Mafia Reference Tapes. We all know NaS wrote for Foxy and Will Smith. Jay wrote for Foxy and Memphis Bleek. JD wrote for Kris Kross and Bow Wow. Plenty of rappers have wrote bars for other people. That was never the debate.. But none of those rappers claimed "King" or "Best" or "#1 in the game".
They all pretty much stayed humble. Lil Kim didn't get on her GOAT talk until after Biggie died. The Producers with Ghostwriters were a known fact. KanYe calls himself the GOAT ARTIST not the GOAT Emcee, there's a difference. Puffy, Dre and Timbaland never called themselves the best Lyricist. Eazy E never called himself the King. Drake own bars are why he's here. Also Drake had a "No-Name" Ghostwriter nobody had heard of where as the others had established writers. So it was like not only aren't you writing your rhymes but it's from an underground cat out of ATL.
"The Throne is for the taken, watch me take it"
"Last Name Ever, First Name Greatest"
"Everything is Drake featuring Drake"
"Maybe I'll help ya'll off the shelf"
Etc, Also even if many of us never had Drake as a Top Emcee, you can't deny there was a media push to put him as a GOAT. The Sprite Billboard/Ad was an example. A few of us even said he's really the Ja Rule/50/T.I./Ludacris teir of Emcee but I honestly can't put him over any of those guys. Also let me remind you of someone:
You'd have no credibility whatsoever, and you'd be out of the window immediately." - Noah 40
In 1990 Vanilla Ice as the biggest rapper in the game. His album was approaching Diamond Status He had the Biggest song in Hip Hop History at the time with "Ice, Ice, Baby" as Rap's 1st #1 Hit. He was getting all the awards and all the props. The Media was saying he changed Hip Hop. Then guess what happen? People found out he had ghostwriters once Queen and David Bowie took him to court over the sample. In the Lawsuit it was discovered that Vanilla Ice didn't write his rhymes. People also found out he lied about his upbringing. He was immediately BANISHED From Hip Hop. Cause Vanilla Ice was fronting about this bars and got caught.
Now I won't call Drake Vanilla Ice but he was fronting about his Bars. The debate never was "Are there Ghostwriters", people kept moving the goal post trying to change the points we were making. Biggie has a Lil Kim and 2 Junior Mafia Reference Tapes. We all know NaS wrote for Foxy and Will Smith. Jay wrote for Foxy and Memphis Bleek. JD wrote for Kris Kross and Bow Wow. Plenty of rappers have wrote bars for other people. That was never the debate.. But none of those rappers claimed "King" or "Best" or "#1 in the game".
They all pretty much stayed humble. Lil Kim didn't get on her GOAT talk until after Biggie died. The Producers with Ghostwriters were a known fact. KanYe calls himself the GOAT ARTIST not the GOAT Emcee, there's a difference. Puffy, Dre and Timbaland never called themselves the best Lyricist. Eazy E never called himself the King. Drake own bars are why he's here. Also Drake had a "No-Name" Ghostwriter nobody had heard of where as the others had established writers. So it was like not only aren't you writing your rhymes but it's from an underground cat out of ATL.
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The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
Check the credits.
His last name is Palman.
Show me where another "executive" is on individual song credits..
Lol..this dude penned all Drake's shyt
Check the dates:
Check out @CITY2GRITTY's Tweet:
Check out @essfromthecrid's Tweet:
Check out @SmittyErr's Tweet:
And Lord Knows was maybe Drake at his best lyrically
LogicFirst
Banned
I was a Drake fan and it matters to me. I'm not a Drake hater check my history
The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
Check the credits.
His last name is Palman.
Show me where another "executive" is on individual song credits..
Lol..this dude penned all Drake's shyt
Check the dates:
Check out @CITY2GRITTY's Tweet:
Check out @essfromthecrid's Tweet:
Check out @SmittyErr's Tweet:
wtf!?