Noah "40" Shebib in 2012: "If you dont write your own raps you have no credibility"

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Im glad a guy I respect is coming to his senses. I literally am from Toronto and I remmeber when I first came back to Toronto for holiday and heard 6 god, i played it non stop in the whip and went CRAZY

Like he was talking about being away from the 6, its hot, gettin money etc... It felt so real

Now in retrospect I feel decieved, but I dont have any hate for Drake. He still put out some legendary music objectively but these questions about his integrity need to be answered out of curiosity... It does matter that he is a fraud. It doesnt matter to my ears, but it matters to my intelligence. I cant in good conscience act like its not a big deal.

I mean the nikka even stole the terminology "the 6" from someone else...:dead:

And do y'all realize he's the only nikka in Hip Hop history I can' think of to ever be sued for BITING?

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I mean the nikka even stole the terminology "the 6" from someone else...:dead:

And do y'all realize he's the only nikka in Hip Hop history I can' think of to ever be sued for BITING?

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His stans have the audacity to mention him in the same breath as the greats from the golden era

While it be the same nikkas from that era that were known to not to fukk with shark ass nikkas

Word to Ghostface
 

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I think it will either be Em or Jay that really put the nail in his coffin, with Kendrick/Cole lining up to take his spot in the public image.
Jay holds grudges, and this 'Tidal' line is the fourth time I can think of that Drake took shots at him (first: take the throne, second: rolling stones interview, third: "no misses just hits")
 

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@Matt504 while the lack of melanin in drake is troubling, it doesnt totally disqualify him from concieving advanced flows IE bizzy bone and layzie bone, but that, coupled with the lack of a hard up bringing and the lack of a black community around him make him totally inelligible to concoct the flows seen on "10 bands, 6 man, rico among others.
 

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What em say?

I mean the track in general seems to be attacking somebodies credibility.

The bridge:

"Yall don't do it for the love now...they gon find out who you are just admit it.."

"Do you remember where you started out from? You looking lost now...fake it til you make it your little paper but when you look into the mirror your credibility gone now."

"I'd rather be hated on for who I am, than be loved for who i'm not, that's word to doc."

Em just sounds kinda like he's waiting for somebody to give him the green light to sick whoever :laugh:
 

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It's not the lyrics or the writing that bothers me. You can quote all these dusty purist rules of hip hop and I'm not moved. Those are words on a page and while important it's the artist that brings them to life. It's the flow. Never the flow though. :wow:

I listened to the RICO track with Drake and Mills. That shyt was flames. Drake was effortless. Not much excites me musically but even I got hype. Told my girl Drake executed that verse perfectly. :banderas: Then I listened to the reference track. I heard QM's robotic voice executing perfectly. But what hit me though, what really hit me was when he even did the Drake "I'ma sing in the middle of this verse" shyt Drake does. That's something that annoys me about Drake, but hey, it's uniquely Drake, or WAS anyway (:to:) so I would let it slide. But to hear this robot do a Drake signature was like :wow: Yeah, Drake changed a lot of the lyrics but the flow, the flow is the exact same. I used to change lyrics of whole songs and make them about Metro buses. But the flow was already there for me. The flow is most important to me.

I'm not going to burn Drake shirts, proclaim hip hop is dead, devote volumes of text or thought on it, and it probably won't bother me next week. But right now I'm not liking this. Drake doesn't owe his haters anything. fukk them. But he does owe his fans something. Either prove this is your shyt or just be who you are like Kanye. I'll accept it either way. But in some of his true fan's eyes, no matter how good the music is, and it is good, that question will always be there. Is it the flow though?

I'm still really with you though Drake. But for the time being QM is going to have to share these memories. :mjcry:
this is how a lot of people learn how to rap

which is why the reference tracks are a big deal to some of us

this guy didn't just help drake with a few lines

he's literally teaching drake how to rap

so anytime drake uses a new style or a new flow we have to wonder :jbhmm:
 
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