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better than them? no, but do i live my life with better moral conviction, not being a blatant hypocrite to the religious values i pretend to love? yes. church people stay doing dirt all over the place then want to look down on those who don't go to church, when many non-church goers are living more correct than so-called christians

My pastor was talkin about that for a good couple of sermons ago.
 

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The spiritual term is for people who don't want to be held accountable for believing in their bullshyt religions in the first place so they take the stuff they like and wrap it up in their own flavor.

They're just more dishonest religious people who know that associating themselves with religion makes them look ridiculous so they try to evade the distinction by using more PC language.

They're both essentially idiots. :rudy:

Either what they believe is true, or its not. We're not beating around the bush here.

:pachaha: I was waiting for him to answer the question but you just bodied him for me.
 

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Lots of lost souls in this thread, but not the place for that discussion ......

But being thankful for whatever your family is about to partake in, and wishing for well being of others in your family and people around you is SOO hard to do, you satanic individuals can't even respectfully bow your heads and close your eyes for 30 seconds even if you're not a follower of that religion :comeon:

Thats just the demon inside of you being perterbed around the spirit of God, that gives you that urge to look around make funny faces and be disrespectful.....it probably feels quite uncomfortable around multiple people filled with the grace of the Lord

How is bowing your head and praying to a god being thankful for the food your family make? If you want to be thankful shouldn't you go up to moms and say thank you to her. Or even better, next week you cook for her and tell her to go have a spa day on you?

Saying thank you god isn't being thankful to anything. It's usually a baseless gesture, like when people sneeze and say "God bless you."
 

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How is bowing your head and praying to a god being thankful for the food your family make? If you want to be thankful shouldn't you go up to moms and say thank you to her. Or even better, next week you cook for her and tell her to go have a spa day on you?

Saying thank you god isn't being thankful to anything. It's usually a baseless gesture, like when people sneeze and say "God bless you."

You can do both. Its God who brought you all together in the first place to share such a beautiful moment together. To love and care for one another. Lets give him the praise off top and then thank our kin and share love and appreciation to them as well. Lets work in our relationships with God, friend because it seems like you just dont care about The Almighty and i dont understand why.
 

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You don't have to lecture.
You could always excuse yourself from the activities you don't feel comfortable in. And I didn't know not being there at a prayer is disrespectful.

when you grew up in a religious family, why even try to act brand new like that tho? and yes, my family would consider me disrespecting their beliefs and the effort they put into raising me, regardless of the fact that i've stopped believing in god. and i couldn't imagine being at a friend's house and just bouncing from the table if someone said "let's pray" first. it's not that serious for me to just go with the flow...except the national anthem, i don't stand for that shyt :leostare:
 

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whelp I've heard it all in this thread, time for me to leave. I'm so glad all these non-religious folks have received the Divine ability to read believers Hearts and what they really mean when they give thanks to God :aicmon:

So you mean to tell me every prayer say during dinner is filled with genuine thankfulness? Come on now breh, I'm not that naive. Saying "thank you god for this food we're about to receive, please bless the hands that prepared it" 9/10 is the same canned response you always say when you pray.

It's something you recite and rattle off, but it really ain't shyt you truthfully are thankful for. Your actions reveal your heart. Which is why I said if you were thankful to what your moms did, you'd sacrifice and do something for her in return. Throwing up meaningless thanks to God means nothing because it requires nothing from you.

It's like the people who say they feel sorry for starving children, but wouldn't give a dollar or an hour of their time to help the situation. It's pseudo apathy at it's core.
 

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You can do both. Its God who brought you all together in the first place to share such a beautiful moment together. To love and care for one another. Lets give him the praise off top and then thank our kin and share love and appreciation to them as well. Lets work in our relationships with God, friend because it seems like you just dont care about The Almighty and i dont understand why.

I don't think it was God that brought everyone together. It more than likely had more to do with family tradition or the proximity that you have to each other, not divine intervention from an all powerful deity. The fact you believe that the creator of the universe actually cares whether or not your family has dinner on Sunday or not is one of the most humanistic and prideful concepts.
 

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So you mean to tell me every prayer say during dinner is filled with genuine thankfulness? Come on now breh, I'm not that naive. Saying "thank you god for this food we're about to receive, please bless the hands that prepared it" 9/10 is the same canned response you always say when you pray.

It's something you recite and rattle off, but it really ain't shyt you truthfully are thankful for.

I know this might be :mindblown: for you to comprehend. But when I say to thanks to God for something, I..........am genuinely giving thanks to God :ohhh:

Whether it's for dinner or my defrost working smoothly in the morning. Again how can a self-claimed non-religious person even begin to question the hearts and motivations behind a believers pattern of giving thanks? Especially Since being thankful to God is obviously a concept that you have no familiarity with :leon:
 

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I never force religion or spirituality on anybody. Some religious beliefs are absolutley rediculous in my opinion. BUT, I've seen people who don't believe in God or don't believe in religion get "real God fearing/religious/spiritual" when they are faced with some life or death shyt.

You know the saying, "everybody finds God in Prison or in a foxhole" :manny:
 

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My whole family is split. Grandmothers are very religious, one uncle is a deacon, so when he starts saying grace some of the fam falls in line :lawd: and the rest of us are :stopitslime: :shaq2: :rudy:
 

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I know this might be :mindblown: for you to comprehend. But when I say to thanks to God for something, I..........am genuinely giving thanks to God :ohhh:

Whether it's for dinner or my defrost working smoothly in the morning. Again how can a self-claimed non-religious person even begin to question the hearts and motivations behind a believers pattern of giving thanks? Especially Since being thankful to God is obviously a concept that you have no familiarity with :leon:

I used to be religious, so I do have familiarity with it. The reason I say it's not true thankfulness is because there's no action involved with the process. As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he. True thankfulness will manifest itself in certain ways (which is why I said if you're thankful for your moms cooking, you'd show it).

The same goes for your faith in God. You're thankful to God for getting you to work without dying? How are you showing it? More than likely, you're not. Nothing about you makes anyone thinks "damn, I can see God in that dude, I respect that :obama:"

It's the reason when people go through a tramatic experience that they believe God had a hand in, they TELL everybody.

But hey what do I know, I'm just another lost nikka :nonikkas:
 

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I never force religion or spirituality on anybody. Some religious beliefs are absolutley rediculous in my opinion. BUT, I've seen people who don't believe in God or don't believe in religion get "real God fearing/religious/spiritual" when they are faced with some life or death shyt.

You know the saying, "everybody finds God in Prison or in a foxhole" :manny:

And a lot of those dudes come out more demonic than when they went in. I had a boy do bout 3 years and said he learned how to be a better criminal while he was looked up.
 

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I used to be religious, so I do have familiarity with it. The reason I say it's not true thankfulness is because there's no action involved with the process. As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he. True thankfulness will manifest itself in certain ways (which is why I said if you're thankful for your moms cooking, you'd show it).

The same goes for your faith in God. You're thankful to God for getting you to work without dying? How are you showing it? More than likely, you're not. Nothing about you makes anyone thinks "damn, I can see God in that dude, I respect that :obama:"

It's the reason when people go through a tramatic experience that they believe God had a hand in, they TELL everybody.

But hey what do I know, I'm just another lost nikka :nonikkas:

So how does exactly one show his thankfulness to God besides saying thanks and living in a way that reflects you truly appreciates the grace you've been given? Is there some verifiable method I missed that can be used to measure how thankful someone really is to God when they give thanks? :mjpls:

Nowhere in my previous statement was it said that you couldn't give thanks to your mother (or whoever prepared the meal in this specific circumstance) AND God. Why not both? Why can't I give thanks to God for giving my lovely mother the strength to cook said meal? Why can't I thank God for waking her up in the morning so she could prepare the meal?

Are any of those actions mutually exclusive? . Like Mowlgi said earlier you don't have to not do one to do the other.........seeing now that you have some sort of background in the church I would expect to you be able to understand this
 
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