Nothing But A G Thang Had The WOAT Wordplay

[zayk35]

Dre’s strength and prowess as a producer has never been chopping samples up wildly like Premo or someone like that. He’s the type to find a dope loop and use it, usually he gets it replayed so he can mess with the sonics more. Even back in NWA days he had a lot studio musicians come in a replay samples or change them enough to not have to clear it as a sample or only clear it as an interpolation which costs less. He has a lot of love drums and if they’re not actually live, he gets on the kit himself or gets someone to play and then chips and EQs the shyt out of those for his drums.

Cats who dont like Dre “because he just loops and doesn’t change anything” either don’t know shyt about the art of sampling or don’t realise that a lot of Hip Hop samples are loops. It’s not 90% 1 second chops like Mass Appeal or 3 songs put together to make one 2 bar loop.

He still the GOAT producer in my book. But all my life I pictured him creating that beat from scratch up until then.

 

[Cadillac]

Wrong. Kool G Rap was rapping way more advanced in the 80s.

if this was about dense rhymes, compound rhyming cool. But in regards to wordplay, tricks with literary devices like puns, punchlines, idioms, homonyms, etc? no.

In which case Kool is only better by margins. But not impressive if you read them today

"Rhymes are rugged, soul flooded, cold blooded
You ain't better, you're butter, so just shut it
Here to perform, having a brainstorm, make a rain form" Kool g rap "Men at work"

This shyt cringy to read in 2021. So yeah you can keep some of these "advanced" bars he had in the 80s this shyt^^^^ is corny

And even if Kool was amazing he would be a outlier.

 

[Pop123]

"Gettin funky on the mic like a old batch of collard greens"


Nah, you right, that shyt ass...but you looking at 1992 bars from a 2021 perspective, that aint fair to them. I'm sure Dre and Snoop's writers have advanced with the times and would write them much more intricate wordplay today.

 

[Cadillac]

"Gettin funky on the mic like a old batch of collard greens"


Nah, you right, that shyt ass...but you looking at 1992 bars from a 2021 perspective, that aint fair to them. I'm sure Dre and Snoop's writers have advanced with the times and would write them much more advanced wordplay today.

Snoop didn't have writers for this or doggystyle last I checked

 

[Greenhornet]

you had to be there for Snoop as a late teen brehs ... it was his aura and his freestylish flow on songs that did it
in 1992 this was turning the corner especially the way he was riding beats with that free flow

 

[Smitty Belafonte]

Y’all trippin them is bars

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

.......................

 

[Let A Fro Be A Fro]

Never let me slip, cause if I slip, then I'm slippin

That line hits different since the blizzard last month

 

[Edub]

WTFU TALMBAT??

I MEAN, IF A MUTHAFUCCA SLIPPED HE LITERALLY WAS SLIPPING.
AND YOU SHOUDN’T WANT NOBODY TO SLIP - THAT’S EMBARRASSING AND DANGEROUS,
SO DON’T NEVER LET THEM SLIP! WHAT’S WRONG WITH THAT?!?

Right tho... friends dont let friends slip

 

[Liu Kang]

I'm still pissed i never realized the beat was just a loop. I always held it up as one of his best beats and one of the GOAT hip hop beats ever. Until about age 25 I came across the Og track and legit thought is was "G Thang" until the beat switches up. It fukked me up... he barely changed anything

I was surprised when I found out too but ultimately Dre had the ear to sample it properly.

Only issue I really have is that they made it seem like he created it from nothing in the NWA movie

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

hypocrite ass nikkas in here. Oh its "words dont matter, only delivery and production" now when these old songs with bullshyt lyrics get called out?

But when these new cats use that same formula its "these cats now just care about delivery and production. No one wants to give us dope lyrics anymore"

 

[Lhark]

I agree but the beat is so godly you just kinda bypass all that

 

[MurderToCassette]

Damn breh, everybody hit you with the on this one.

That's ight breh, I Ain't Mad A'tcha

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

if this was about dense rhymes, compound rhyming cool. But in regards to wordplay, tricks with literary devices like puns, punchlines, idioms, homonyms, etc? no.

In which case Kool is only better by margins. But not impressive if you read them today

"Rhymes are rugged, soul flooded, cold blooded
You ain't better, you're butter, so just shut it
Here to perform, having a brainstorm, make a rain form" Kool g rap "Men at work"

This shyt cringy to read in 2021. So yeah you can keep some of these "advanced" bars he had in the 80s this shyt^^^^ is corny

And even if Kool was amazing he would be a outlier.

Yeah, NO.

First off, there is no IF, G rap was and is amazing, and wut u quoted is good. For example, ppl still use that brainstorm wordplay to this day. That’s the definition of advanced. Ironic coming from a poster named “Cadillac”

I could quote u to death with lyrics from, Common, Nas, Kane, KRS, Cube, and a ton of others during this era that are advanced. Don’t rewrite history.

now back to this thread, hilarious shyt man.

 

[UserNameless]

lol early 90s nikkas were not that impressive in the wordplay, idiom flipping department fam

i know as old heads yall have a thing for that era and the 90s in general, but lyricism in the 90s was not at its finest when it comes to the usage of devices like wordplay, play on words, and idioms

Even the nicest lyricist like Common, Big Daddy kane, are dope but they were anamolies, . Compared to alot of the rappers who said things like in the OP. Plus they arent exactly the best in wordplay usage compared to those who came after(rightfully so as the successors should be better)

90s specifically early 90s lyricism was dope for its dense rhyming, internal rhyming, and multi syllable rhymings.

but in regards to wordplay? nah

if this was about dense rhymes, compound rhyming cool. But in regards to wordplay, tricks with literary devices like puns, punchlines, idioms, homonyms, etc? no.

In which case Kool is only better by margins. But not impressive if you read them today

"Rhymes are rugged, soul flooded, cold blooded
You ain't better, you're butter, so just shut it
Here to perform, having a brainstorm, make a rain form" Kool g rap "Men at work"

This shyt cringy to read in 2021. So yeah you can keep some of these "advanced" bars he had in the 80s this shyt^^^^ is corny

And even if Kool was amazing he would be a outlier.

You’re really on one



either a few of these posters are being willfully naive, allowing nostalgia to rule their logic or they literally can’t comprehend how you’re framing the argument because its essentially irrefutable . Very few rappers of that era utilized literary devices in a really refined , advanced manner . .. and that’s if they utilized them at all . And yes , alotta their efforts at doin that shyt is cringe now . It was really cringe and rudimentary at the time if taken in larger literary context , but negroes ain’t no any better