now i finally believe that dr. dre uses ghost producers

[JustCKing]

they lookin' at it like "this is dr. dre". he put us in the game and he the one who came from n.w.a.; they probably was like we lucky to even be around him. whatever he say is cool, we cool with. we just happy to be workin' alongside this man. and then too, people like daz and warren g was just happy to be doin' what they loved, makin' music and chillin' with they homies and not havin' to be on the street caught up in some bullshyt.

if they had nothin' to lose in regards to givin' full credit to daz then they should have. but regardless of that, whoever did the work for whatever song and or project should always received full credit for what they do and or contribute. it's only right



that maybe but i don't think that was always the case. i'm sure daz like warren g bought ideas to the table. it was more of a team effort with a dr. dre "yah" or "nah" with the final say so and with him obviously overseein' and supervisin' the project. but i believe guys like daz and warren bought more to the table than they got credit for

daz mentioned on how he put together the murder was the case movie/cover was, right at 3:48 mark of this interview

What I'm saying is Daz really didn't do what people are implying he did. Him programming drums doesn't warrant a production credit. If he's programming drums, that's why he's only credited with programming drums. It would be crazy to give him a full production credit just for programming drums on a song. There's album credits that have world famous producers listed with just programming credits. It wasn't because the label/artist was trying to take credit or discredit that producer, but that's what they were credited for.

A lot of people who bring ideas to the table are often un-credited as well. For example, there are a lot of rappers who are probably more involved with the production of their songs than they get credit for. The same goes for producers.

 

[I love Latina women]

@ OP not being convinced when Pac and Suge said it, but being all when NORE says it

well i knew how pac was with some stuff, how passionate he would be when he had differences with some people and how suge can be with some stuff, exaggeratin' and all. lol

but nore ain't got shyt to lose and to my knowledge ain't never had no beef with dr. dre. so why would he lie bout some shyt like this? like i said, he ain't the type to make up no shyt bout producin'

 

[I love Latina women]

What I'm saying is Daz really didn't do what people are implying he did. Him programming drums doesn't warrant a production credit. If he's programming drums, that's why he's only credited with programming drums. It would be crazy to give him a full production credit just for programming drums on a song. There's album credits that have world famous producers listed with just programming credits. It wasn't because the label/artist was trying to take credit or discredit that producer, but that's what they were credited for.

A lot of people who bring ideas to the table are often un-credited as well. For example, there are a lot of rappers who are probably more involved with the production of their songs than they get credit for. The same goes for producers.

i hear you but the the bottom line is this, whoever does what, should get credit for that

now he got credit for programmin' the drums on rat-tat-tat-tat in the chronic credits but in that interview with b-real for smokebox daz says he produced it. he says it was the first record he produced!

again, just credit is due to whoever did what, period.

 

[DaveyDave]

i hear you but the the bottom line is this, whoever does what, should get credit for that

now he got credit for programmin' the drums on rat-tat-tat-tat in the chronic credits but in that interview with b-real for smokebox daz says he produced it. he says it was the first record he produced!

again, just credit is due to whoever did what, period.

i wouldn't believe Daz if he told me what he ate for breakfast. have you heard some of the stories this guy has told over the years?

 

[I love Latina women]

i wouldn't believe Daz if he told me what he ate for breakfast. have you heard some of the stories this guy has told over the years?

oh yeah, i know

like those recent vlad interviews he did where he mentioned that suge has a restrainin' order against him was funny as fukk

but with guys like daz, you can usually read inbetween the lines and tell when he's bullshyttin' and when's actually speakin' the real

i know daz is like a comedian and says some stupid shyt from time to time but production credits and all is the one thing i don't think he lies about

 

[Deadman187]

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.16662/title.soopafly-talks-work-on-the-new-detox-hits-with-dr-dre-tha-dogg-pound

DX: You mentioned on “That Way” from your last album that you previously “made beats with Dre.” Can you reveal what songs those beats became?

Soopafly: Uh … “Natural Born Killaz.” Uh … “[Keep Their Heads] Ringin’.” [Laughs] A lot of [the] Above The Rim [soundtrack]: “Big Pimpin’.” During that time, the Murder Was The Case Soundtrack, things like that. “Who Got Some Gangsta shyt?” I would have to admit that when we did the song it had my drums to it. Dre changed the drums, made ‘em his drums that he liked. At the time I was like, “Ah, I want my drums.” But then I listened back and I’m glad he changed it, because his ears is and was much, much more polished than mine.

DX: So during that era – like, ’94, ’95 – were you just playing keyboards, sort of as a session player? Or were you coming up with riffs and then taking ‘em to Dr. Dre, taking ‘em to Daz and saying, “Listen to this?”

Soopafly: It was before I met Daz. I was with Dre. With Dre, I was a keyboard player. He’d bring me to the studio, he’d play a beat, if he had a idea about how he wanted it [added on to I’d play that], or maybe [he’d have me] listen to a sample [and tell me to] “Do this over,” or [we’d] just come up with something hard and just see what we can do. We just created. So it was an even collaboration. I might do a bassline [and] he might [be like], “Well, change that note.” And he might [play] on there and I might change a note. It was just creativity.

Soopafly Recalls Getting Down With Tha Dogg Pound
DX: And then Daz came in and stole you away? [Laughs]

Soopafly: Dr. Dre fired me, matter of fact. Really, he didn’t fire me, he was not doing music. So it was really nothing for me to do. So, I met Kurupt first. And then we did a song together. And then he introduced me to Daz. And when I met [back up with] Daz the next morning, we went in the studio and we did [Tha Dogg Pound's] “What Would You Do.” So, we kinda knew we was a match. And we became best friends – me, him and Kurupt.

 

[Sccit]

DRE IS A TRUE PRODUCER IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD...HE GHOST PRODUCED FOR OTHERS, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. JUST LISTEN TO DOGG FOOD....DAZ HASNT MADE A BEAT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT LEVEL SINCE LEAVIN DRE'S CORNER. A PRODUCER IS LIKE A COMPOSER IN CLASSICAL MUSIC OR A DIRECTOR IN FILM. COMIN UP WITH A SIMPLE BEAT LOOP IS THE EASY PART...BRINGIN IT TO LIFE IS WHAT MAKES OR BREAKS IT...... NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN ON DRE'S LEVEL AS FAR AS PRODUCING GOES.

 

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This is common knowledge. He gets a producer or team of producers to make beats, then he oversees them and makes the tweaks he wants.

these other dudes are beat makers. he's an old school producer. A guy that works with session bands(including a beat maker). this guy should be called a Conductor. because thats what he is.

 

[rapbeats]

DRE IS A TRUE PRODUCER IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD...HE GHOST PRODUCED FOR OTHERS, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. JUST LISTEN TO DOGG FOOD....DAZ HASNT MADE A BEAT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT LEVEL SINCE LEAVIN DRE'S CORNER. A PRODUCER IS LIKE A COMPOSER IN CLASSICAL MUSIC OR A DIRECTOR IN FILM. COMIN UP WITH A SIMPLE BEAT LOOP IS THE EASY PART...BRINGIN IT TO LIFE IS WHAT MAKES OR BREAKS IT...... NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN ON DRE'S LEVEL AS FAR AS PRODUCING GOES.

and Daz admitted to this on VladTV.