NYC Mayor Adams not a fan of violent Hip Hop music

[vino]

His aim is to remove gangs. Drill music and gangs are the same. I have no problem with this message. Get this glorification of black death and violence out of here.

 

[ISO]

How about getting positive programs and cleaning up the drug infested areas? Banning the music ain't going to do shyt. Changing the culture will.

This stuff exists.

He’s not focusing on drill it’s something that came to his attention and alarmed him. He’s talking about drill because of the Kay Flock murder, Nas Blicky shooting, C Blu cop shooting and cheddar bobbing, and death of T Dot Woo and Chii Wvttz, because of the choke hold the local drill scene has on the youth. As mayor he should address that and it doesn’t take away from addressing “root issues”.

 

[Thanos]

A whole lot of trash takes on this thread & meateating of an ex-cop. Only few people actually recognizing the problem.

 

[ogc163]

The narrative fallacy running rampant in this thread, which often the case when it comes to crime and violence discussions.

 

[lib123]

You mean like some of these programs?

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No I mean like building up private businesses to employ Black women and youth. Those programs are cool but not nearly enough.

 

[Pimp]

For context of what he mean by that
Joe Biden Pushed Ronald Reagan to Ramp Up Incarceration

It's a fact he's not .. If there are people out there committing crimes do you want them out there? NYC back in the day had 2200 murders in a year. You have to stop it early because once retaliation season starts the numbers just skyrocket.

 

[DonRe]

Adams is not a conservative. Adams is trying to extend school and wants to expand youth summer job opportunities.

Adams worked to uncover corruption by starting the 100 Blacks in Law Enforcement program and he was under surveillance by NYPD.

These talks never go anywhere because of shyt like this—assumptions and generalizations talking about critical issues in black and white absolutes.

he shares many conservative policies and talking points. Which is fine. Just dated. Never about what causes the issue and how to remedy the fact but with nothing other than “law and order” implementations.
Eric talks a big “activist game” about the dept but what came of it. A brotherhood within the brotherhood of corruption?

i dont assume. I know. I worked 5 yrs in the DOP. Ive been in countless community/police dept meetings. Its all the same shyt. By the same ppl.

now eric, who owns the platform in both arenas, hasnt shown how he will bring both sides together. But talks about rap? Okay

 

[Kufismack]

Slippery slope. If they do this, what's next movie clips, other forms of entertainment, etc.

nah some of these chicago nikkas saying "I'ma kill <insert opps here>" and then he ends up dead. Or vice versa. They kill then rap about it.

 

[Frangala]

No I mean like building up private businesses to employ Black women and youth. Those programs are cool but not nearly enough.

He is a public official and not a private sector entrepreneur or chief executive officer (CEO) hence does not have influence over the hiring practices of private business X.

He can advocate for CITY programs financed by public taxpayer money (because he has somewhat control on the allocation of that public money through the city budgeting process) that train and educate young Black people so that they can be competitive in the private sector labor market to attain those jobs.

What exactly do you want him to advocate for and do?

He is the mayor, and a public official therefore he cannot "build private businesses". He can incentivize private businesses through tax credits or other public sector municipial policies etc... but he himself cannot build businesses that hire Black youths or Black women.

 

[ISO]

he shares many conservative policies and talking points. Which is fine. Just dated. Never about what causes the issue and how to remedy the fact but with nothing other than “law and order” implementations.
Eric talks a big “activist game” about the dept but what came of it. A brotherhood within the brotherhood of corruption?

i dont assume. I know. I worked 5 yrs in the DOP. Ive been in countless community/police dept meetings. Its all the same shyt. By the same ppl.

now eric, who owns the platform in both arenas, hasnt shown how he will bring both sides together. But talks about rap? Okay

One man wasn’t going to overhaul the whole system.

Why do y’all have a problem with him taking about rap?

It’s a pressing issue in the city because of recent events. It’s what his citizens are talking about. So why would he not speak on it?

 

[lib123]

He is a public official and not a private sector entrepreneur or chief executive officer (CEO) hence does not have influence over the hiring practices of private business X.

He can advocate for CITY programs financed by public taxpayer money (because he has somewhat control on the allocation of that public money through the city budgeting process) that train and educate young Black people so that they can be competitive in the private sector labor market to attain those jobs.

What exactly do you want him to advocate for and do?

He is the mayor, and a public official therefore he cannot "build private businesses". He can incentivize private businesses through tax credits or other public sector municipial policies etc... but he himself cannot build businesses that hire Black youths or Black women.

I’m saying he’s part of the larger issue of older Black men pointing to symptoms of dysfunction in black society without collectively working to build a strong economic base. Many of his counterparts chose to stay comfortable working for the Man in Corporate America instead of taking the knowledge, pooling resources and building businesses.

 

[Frangala]

I’m saying he’s part of the larger issue of older Black men pointing to symptoms of dysfunction in black society without collectively working to build a strong economic base. Many of his counterparts chose to stay comfortable working for the Man in Corporate America instead of taking the knowledge, pooling resources and building businesses.

How do you know that when it comes to Adams? There are plenty of efforts from corporate Black men who have made it that have tried to contribute to the community in various ways. See Robert Smith and Eddie Brown. Or is that just a popular tag line that people choose to run with.

The program is literally targeting low income youth people (16-24) (which is code word for Black youths) to get trained via these programs acquire skills that will make them competitive in the labor force and have access to high earning jobs.

Again, as mayor of a city and a public official. What exactly do you want him to do in his current position. He has addressed the poverty of the communities and has highlighted that it leads some to despair and commit anti-social acts while SIMULTANEOUSLY addressing this drill music stuff that worsens the violence in the city because it is not only the young people who are active participants in these things but innocent bystanders (i.e 11 months old getting hit by bullets).

Again, Eric Adams , public official and mayor of NYC. What do YOU want him to do in his capacity to alleviate the problem of violence in the city beside advocating for public programs that would train Black youths and equip them with life and job skills?

 

[lib123]

How do you know that when it comes to Adams? There are plenty of efforts from corporate Black men who have made it that have tried to contribute to the community in various ways. See Robert Smith and Eddie Brown. Or is that just a popular tag line that people choose to run with.

The program is literally targeting low income youth people (16-24) (which is code word for Black youths) to get trained via these programs acquire skills that will make them competitive in the labor force and have access to high earning jobs.

Again, as mayor of a city and a public official. What exactly do you want him to do in his current position. He has addressed the poverty of the communities and has highlighted that it leads some to despair and commit anti-social acts while SIMULATANEOUSLY addressing this drill music stuff that worsens the violence in the city because it is not only the young people who are active participants in these things but innocent bystanders (i.e 11 months old getting hit by bullets).

Again, Eric Adams , public official and mayor of NYC. What do YOU want him to do in his capacity to alleviate the problem of violence in the city beside advocating for public programs that would train Black youths and equip them with life and job skills?

Robert Smith and Eddie Jones are rare positive exceptions. They wouldn’t be able to do as much as they’ve done if they hadn’t started their own businesses. My point is we need more Black men like them (not necessarily as successful) who are self-employed and better able to create more opportunities for young Black men. I want people like Eric Adams to stop blaming societal symptoms on drill music.

 

[Matt504]

Robert Smith and Eddie Jones are rare positive exceptions. They wouldn’t be able to do as much as they’ve done if they hadn’t started their own businesses. My point is we need more Black men like them (not necessarily as successful) who are self-employed and better able to create more opportunities for young Black men. I want people like Eric Adams to stop blaming societal symptoms on drill music.

Eric Adam's isn't blaming societal symptoms on music, he wants to deplatform criminals that make music videos pointing guns at cameras and threatening the lives of the young Black men you say need better opportunities.

 

[Frangala]

Robert Smith and Eddie Jones are rare positive exceptions. They wouldn’t be able to do as much as they’ve done if they hadn’t started their own businesses. My point is we need more Black men like them (not necessarily as successful) who are self-employed and better able to create more opportunities for young Black men. I want people like Eric Adams to stop blaming societal symptoms on drill music.

I agree with you in terms of the necessity of those type of men. But I disagree with the fact that drill should not be addressed but hey it was a good exchange.