Obama plans to take on gerrymandering post-presidency

[CACtain Planet]

this post presidency stuff is related to fighting it at a grassroots level .

Why can't Obama work to start a pro-black political party at the grass roots level post presidency

 

[Scholar]

shyt getting desperate in Trumpville I see.

LOL Literally dying

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Why can't Obama work to start a pro-black political party at the grass roots level post presidency

The same reason you aren't. lol Well, half I mean.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Let me try and follow you here with this whole Obama should have pushed for a bill to fight gerrymandering flow you on here. Lets see, who writes bills, thats right Congress writes bills. Who has been in control of congress since 2010 mostly due to gerrymandering, republicans have been in control of congress since 2010 mostly due to gerrymandering. So Obama should have been fighting for republicans to draft a bill that would most likely end up removing a sizable portion of them from office. Yeah buddy, that would have worked out just fine.

The way to fight this now is at the state level and have a system like Iowa where a non-partisan group oversees the district lines.

Like old boy said, this change has to happen at a grassroots level. Obama is the de-facto leader of the Democratic party. He would not have had to draft a federal bill to initiate action.

How would it look for a sitting president to get involved in changing the election process?
How much time and effort would the president have to use to get involved in the process in 50 states and thousands of counties?

It would look no different than Congressional reps/governors/municipal officials to get involved.

And he wouldn't have had to been down in the trenches redrawing borders This is like saying a CEO has to be out in the factory soldering chips to make a new product Yall are like kids who make themselves dead weight when they don't wanna be picked up, I know for a FACT yall know how this shyt would work but you can't fight your impulses

This nikka's fukking up plain and simple, he did not have to wait 8 years to do something about gerrymandering brehs.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Dude had 8 years as the fukking president to fight gerrymandering, and in those 8 years that gerrymandering did HELLA damage.

Why wait until he's fukking powerless? He might as well not do shyt

Gerrymandering doesn't affect the House?

And a president with the power to push, leverage for, sign and veto bills into law has a lot more power over gerrymandering, which is a national issue, than some random dude "fighting it at a grassroots level". If Obama felt "fighting at a grassroots level" was the most effective way to get shyt done, he would have stayed at the grassroots level instead of becoming fukking president

The FLOTUS got initiatives for school fukking lunches rolling and on the books. Are you really going to sit here and tell me the president was completely powerless to create some kind of gerrymandering initiative?

You nikkas are full of shyt right now. Stop

This poster seriously isn't stupid enough to think that Obama would somehow get the House of Representatives to pass a bill that would take their OWN seats away?

Let me try and follow you here with this whole Obama should have pushed for a bill to fight gerrymandering flow you on here. Lets see, who writes bills, thats right Congress writes bills. Who has been in control of congress since 2010 mostly due to gerrymandering, republicans have been in control of congress since 2010 mostly due to gerrymandering. So Obama should have been fighting for republicans to draft a bill that would most likely end up removing a sizable portion of them from office. Yeah buddy, that would have worked out just fine.

The way to fight this now is at the state level and have a system like Iowa where a non-partisan group oversees the district lines.

How would it look for a sitting president to get involved in changing the election process?
How much time and effort would the president have to use to get involved in the process in 50 states and thousands of counties?

You're sounding silly bruh. Gerrymandering is done by state legislatures. What is the President supposed to do? Try and use executive power to supersede state laws?

And you compare that to Michelle Obama's school lunch initiative. She had the backing of stimulus funds, high-ranking people in the HHS and CDC and people in the food industry willing to play ball because it wasn't controversial and wasn't fukking up anyone's money and power.

You think Obama can just deebo say the whole Republican political establishment in North Carolina to redraw their districts so they can lose their own jobs? Be serious.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You're sounding silly bruh. Gerrymandering is done by state legislatures. What is the President supposed to do? Try and use executive power to supersede state laws?

And you compare that to Michelle Obama's school lunch initiative. She had the backing of stimulus funds, high-ranking people in the HHS and CDC and people in the food industry willing to play ball because it wasn't controversial and wasn't fukking up anyone's money and power.

You think Obama can just deebo say the whole Republican political establishment in North Carolina to redraw their districts so they can lose their own jobs? Be serious.

Bruh there are Democrat operatives in every state. There are campaigning operations.

You talk about North Carolina... there's a case in the Supreme Court RIGHT NOW over how the GOP drew district maps. NGOs filed a lawsuit and it's been working its way up the courts. They almost got the shyt reversed in time for this election (our shytty ass governor is up for re-election).

So you guys bullshyt ass red herring claim that the "only" way Obama could or that I suggested he could effect change is through signing laws is ridiculous. He's the fukking president, he can make things happen in a bunch of different ways that don't involve going through Congress or even anything federal.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Like old boy said, this change has to happen at a grassroots level. Obama is the de-facto leader of the Democratic party. He would not have had to draft a federal bill to initiate action.


It would look no different than Congressional reps/governors/municipal officials to get involved.

And he wouldn't have had to been down in the trenches redrawing borders This is like saying a CEO has to be out in the factory soldering chips to make a new product Yall are like kids who make themselves dead weight when they don't wanna be picked up, I know for a FACT yall know how this shyt would work but you can't fight your impulses

This nikka's fukking up plain and simple, he did not have to wait 8 years to do something about gerrymandering brehs.

Um 'Congressional reps/governors/municipal officials' represent local districts/states. He doesn't. See the difference?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Bruh there are Democrat operatives in every state. There are campaigning operations.

You talk about North Carolina... there's a case in the Supreme Court RIGHT NOW over how the GOP drew district maps. NGOs filed a lawsuit and it's been working its way up the courts. They almost got the shyt reversed in time for this election (our shytty ass governor is up for re-election).

So you guys bullshyt ass red herring claim that the "only" way Obama could or that I suggested he could effect change is through signing laws is ridiculous. He's the fukking president, he can make things happen in a bunch of different ways that don't involve going through Congress or even anything federal.

So tell us how Obama could convince Republican-ran legislatures to redraw their districts to allow Democrats to pick up more seats in way that don't involve Congress or anything federal. We're listening.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Let me put it like this- what's he going to do post presidency that he couldn't have got the Democratic Party on board with AS president? If the Republicans could come together to leverage redistricting/gerrymandering without a president why couldn't the Democrats have done the same with one??????

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

So tell us how Obama could convince Republican-ran legislatures to redraw their districts to allow Democrats to pick up more seats in way that don't involve Congress or anything federal. We're listening.

How is he going to get those Republican-ran legislatures to do this after his presidency???

You mean to tell me there is nobody in the Democratic party besides Obama who is capable of combatting the Republican gerrymandering onslaught?

 

[Mook]

Bruh there are Democrat operatives in every state. There are campaigning operations.

You talk about North Carolina... there's a case in the Supreme Court RIGHT NOW over how the GOP drew district maps. NGOs filed a lawsuit and it's been working its way up the courts. They almost got the shyt reversed in time for this election (our shytty ass governor is up for re-election).

So you guys bullshyt ass red herring claim that the "only" way Obama could or that I suggested he could effect change is through signing laws is ridiculous. He's the fukking president, he can make things happen in a bunch of different ways that don't involve going through Congress or even anything federal.

We're gonna get em this year bro. My vote will finally matter in south raleigh.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

How is he going to get those Republican-ran legislatures to do this after his presidency???

You mean to tell me there is nobody in the Democratic party besides Obama who is capable of combatting the Republican gerrymandering onslaught?

You completely ducked the question.

Anyhow, as for how he could combat gerrymandering post-presidency, read the article. Sounds like he's going to use create a political campaign group to coordinate legal opposition to gerrymandering at a local and state level. Isn't that how effective political change is supposed to work?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

We're gonna get em this year bro. My vote will finally matter in south raleigh.

Don't forget about 2017-19 though breh... the GOP won't

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You completely ducked the question.

Anyhow, as for how he could combat gerrymandering post-presidency, read the article. Sounds like he's going to use create a political campaign group to coordinate legal opposition to gerrymandering at a local and state level. Isn't that how effective political change is supposed to work?

It's a stupid question because it's asking me to defend a point I never made. Post the quote where I said the only way for Obama to combat GOP gerrymandering was through getting a law signed by Congress. I'll wait

And you speak to what the article says.... like I asked before and you ducked, why couldn't he had done that as president? That is not an effort he has to directly oversee and micromanage. The GOP chairs of House and Congress were not out in every district working on their gerrymandering agenda, they had grassroots level dojas carrying shyt out at the local level. You mean to tell me Obama + the Democrats were incapable of doing the same???

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

It's a stupid question because it's asking me to defend a point I never made. Post the quote where I said the only way for Obama to combat GOP gerrymandering was through getting a law signed by Congress. I'll wait

And you speak to what the article says.... like I asked before and you ducked, why couldn't he had done that as president? That is not an effort he has to directly oversee and micromanage. The GOP chairs of House and Congress were not out in every district working on their gerrymandering agenda, they had grassroots level dojas carrying shyt out at the local level. You mean to tell me Obama + the Democrats were incapable of doing the same???

This is what you said....

"So you guys bullshyt ass red herring claim that the "only" way Obama could or that I suggested he could effect change is through signing laws is ridiculous. He's the fukking president, he can make things happen in a bunch of different ways that don't involve going through Congress or even anything federal."

I read perfectly well what you said. My question in response was...

"So tell us how Obama could convince Republican-ran legislatures to redraw their districts to allow Democrats to pick up more seats in way that don't involve Congress or anything federal. We're listening."

I'm still waiting on an answer.