Obama raising the national Minimum wage to $9.00 Appreciation Thread

[DEAD7]

I would love for one of the liberals, or Pro min-wage hike individuals to explain to me how giving some one with few option even less options, is suppose to make them better off?

 

[Ms~Opinionated]

This thread ballooned since I was last here, did those doomsday saw niccas talking bout your gonna lose your jobs and small businesses will fail and a big Mac will cos $13 ever address this?

It was completely ignored, because it doesn't matter to the topic.

That chart wasn't anything special. Most people already know this.

How does $9/hr help this though?

Despite many wage increases since 1968 we are doing no better. Basically min wage buys less than it did in 1968.

Another wage increase won't fix this chart or make things better.

This is way deeper than just minimum wage. Inflation is outpacing wage increases. Solve that. Are you going to raise the minimum wage forever into perpetuity without solving the real problem. This monster is too big and min wage is a bandaid on a gunshot wound.

 

[Rawtid]

True in a sense, but a lot of these families of 4 that I see, is like 3 kids and one Mom, no car, on the trolley, it's 6:45 PM and the kids are crying and hungry, everyones been at work or school all day, how do you get to a grocery store? Bus? That's like another hour or two, then cook. Crying and hungry kids need food, quickly, so you grab the $1 menu items at a fast food place, kids are quiet, and it solves the issue at hand, what doesn't do is provide any nutrition, and the kids are starving waking up, then they get free breakfast, if it's available...it's just a nasty, vicious, cycle of poverty, lack of education, lack of opportunity, and of course personal responsibility factors in, but do the kids deserve the harshness of some of the more 'fiscal conservatives'?

That's an extreme case, but speaking from experience, you can meal plan food from your home for day to day life. Even if it's a sandwich and some carrots. I keep bottles of water and juice boxes in my trunk and I always pack a lunch when my daughter and I go out. Well, I shouldn't say always but if I do eat out, it was planned.

 

[The_Sheff]

It was completely ignored, because it doesn't matter to the topic.

That chart wasn't anything special. Most people already know this.

How does $9/hr help this though?

Despite many wage increases since 1968 we are doing no better. Basically min wage buys less than it did in 1968.

Another wage increase won't fix this chart or make things better.

This is way deeper than just minimum wage. Inflation is outpacing wage increases. Solve that. Are you going to raise the minimum wage forever into perpetuity without solving the real problem. This monster is too big and min wage is a bandaid on a gunshot wound.

See but yall dont want to do anything about it either. The rich mufukkas have hoarded all the money and whenever we start talking about taking some of that shyt back yall say dont do it, it wont work, etc.......

 

[jilla82]

That's because shyt is dirt cheap in those countries as opposed to here. Look at the exchange rates.

breh...Ive been out of the countries plenty of times.
A lot of people dont have running water, let alone a place to shyt. Its a whole different ball game outside of this country.

You cats need to at least pay a little attention to whats going on out there. You dont have to believe it, but people w/ money are thinking something totally different...and if they pull out...we are in trouble.

I like this dudes youtube channel

 

[Midwest]

A chart for some of you smart dumb nikkas. How are you ok with the power of minimum wage steadily decreasing while this nation gets richer and richer?

This is not a win because of the simple law of supply and demand. As labor cost rise (employee wages) the amount a supplier/producer pays for the the cost of production increases all together and to maintain a profit margin, they will adjust as needed. This includes reducing the amount of employees they hire and possibly laying off current ones. This isn't rocket science.

Yall keep feeling like yall are doing your boss a favor by staying broke. This shyt is sickening. Sheep like you love to see the top get richer while your broke ass will keep arguing why it should stay that way.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

My point was its not as simple as 1 chart

And $15-18K/yr has never been a living wage. So minimum wage is totally arbitrary and just adds an unnecessary cost to doing business

Who ever said minimum wage is a living wage (well one guy in here said it, but he's anti-minimum wage and proven himself to be a nut)? It's the MINIMUM wage, for chrissakes. Most of us agree that $18k/yr is living in poverty and not doing "just fine"

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

It was completely ignored, because it doesn't matter to the topic.

Doesn't matter to the topic....are you mad?

That chart is extremely relevant to the topic at hand. You wingnuts are acting like raising the minimum wage to $9 is some unbearable thing that'll lead to the destruction of the economy as Obama instiutes his socialist policies, but the chart shows it's merely tracking inflation as it's been doing over the last century.

The minimum wage isn't meant to stop inflation, so asking how raising the minimum wage solves that issue is silly. That's not its purpose.


I swear it's like arguing with Fox News correspondents sometimes on here...

 

[Liquid]

Says the new yorker that apparrently doesn't understand economics. The correct statement you should have said is that the STATE mimimum wage should have been etc. The federal goverment has NO Business dictating what the federal wage should be because every local principalities' economy is different.

I still cant get over this. This dude is basically putting the decision into the hands of even MORE politicians on a state by state basis. Like some out of touch Wyoming cat is going to make a serious debate when more than half of the country lives in big-medium sized cities that deals with situations like people who work full-time jobs, spends almost nothing to contribute to the community, and has to apply for SNAP benefits. People in NYC were making less than $8 an hour not too long ago and this is somehow acceptable to you? The greatest city in the world, but only to those who can afford it. I do feel for small businesses, but overall its for the greater good to the population. Most people are in rent controlled areas in big cities so they will benefit almost immediately.

I swear the conservative types in this country continue to prove why they are in trouble and stuck in their own bubble. Oh, raising the minimum wage? I can't hire the additional 20K employees that I was never going to hire anyway. I'll throw the fact that it will cost me a certain x amount more, yet lets not talk about the fact that we had a record quarter in profits not too long ago LOL.

The funniest part is that dudes like HHL4E eat it up

 

[Wild self]

LOL @ working in a small business and can't pay for a pair of shoes after a hard day in work. Props to Obama for raising the minimum wage, but a lot of these big businesses are cutting corners to give more money to these old execs.

 

[CASHAPP]

I still cant get over this. This dude is basically putting the decision into the hands of even MORE politicians on a state by state basis. Like some out of touch Wyoming cat is going to make a serious debate when more than half of the country lives in big-medium sized cities that deals with situations like people who work full-time jobs, spends almost nothing to contribute to the community, and has to apply for SNAP benefits. People in NYC were making less than $8 an hour not too long ago and this is somehow acceptable to you? The greatest city in the world, but only to those who can afford it. I do feel for small businesses, but overall its for the greater good to the population. Most people are in rent controlled areas in big cities so they will benefit almost immediately.

I swear the conservative types in this country continue to prove why they are in trouble and stuck in their own bubble. Oh, raising the minimum wage? I can't hire the additional 20K employees that I was never going to hire anyway. Yet I'll throw the fact that it will cost me a certain x amount more, yet lets not talk about the fact that we had a record quarter in profits not too long ago LOL.

The funniest part is that dudes like HHL4E eat it up

The whole thing seriously reminds me of those clown employwers who have been laying off all their employees like crazy lately and putting the blame on Obamacare and leaving out the fact that they are too lazy and greedy pay an extremely small extra fee to work witth the program.

*cough Papa Johns Ceo cough*

The sad thing is that because how ignorant people in this country can be, when they do get layed off, they probably end up do believing their employers that it is all because of ObamaCare, like it requried the employers something extremely expensive to do.

breh maybe we should get rid of the minimum wage all together and pay everyone over $20 for jobs that do not require masters degrees

Don't doubt me right now breh!!! I"m telling you this could work. TRUST ME!

 

[Wild self]

Why don't some of you take voluntary pay cuts? You know, do your part to keep prices down and curb inflation?: mjpls:

Tell that to the CEOs that have their bonuses going up every year for the last 30 years. Tell them to take them voluntary pay cuts.

 

[Wild self]

Bandaid fix... we shouldn't have so many people making close to minimum wage in the first place....

Blame the CEOs for that shyt. People acting like McDonald's can't afford to pay their workers more when they always make record-breaking profits

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Yall keep feeling like yall are doing your boss a favor by staying broke. This shyt is sickening. Sheep like you love to see the top get richer while your broke ass will keep arguing why it should stay that way.

Dawg I can quit my job today and be straight. I've had 4 jobs in the last 7 years and avg'd a $5K pay jump with each job. And I have side gigs and savings. Nobody should put themselves in a position where a job will make or break them.

Who ever said minimum wage is a living wage (well one guy in here said it, but he's anti-minimum wage and proven himself to be a nut)? It's the MINIMUM wage, for chrissakes. Most of us agree that $18k/yr is living in poverty and not doing "just fine"

Then whats the fukking point of having it at all? Especially when most people working minimum wage jobs don't even work full time???

Everything has a price bruh, including all forms of labor. It makes no sense for the govt to arbitrarily set the price floor for labor. There are a lot of working professionals who go years without raises. There are millions of people working in the US for much less than minimum wage (and living on that). So what exactly does minimum wage accomplish?

Blame the CEOs for that shyt. People acting like McDonald's can't afford to pay their workers more when they always make record-breaking profits

Why should they have to? Real talk, it won't be long before much of McDonald's and other fast food places are automated anyway. The jobs are not hard at all- if they were they would be worth more than minimum wage and the least skilled workers in the economy to do

 

[Tom]

9 dollars, oh lawds


I can finally retire at 40 now



minimum wage goes up, prices on everything goes up = nothing changes, its just an attempt to make you feel better emotionally even tho its really just bullsh1t. Kinda like religion