Obama Took 2016 Election as ‘Personal Insult,’ Blamed Hillary’s ‘Soulless, Scripted Campaign’

[mc_brew]

I had a bad feeling on election day when my friend, who lives in Detroit, texted me and said nobody was at his polling booth that morning; this compared to it being packed all morning/afternoon/evening during the Obama elections. Hillary had to run up the score in major population areas like that to overcome the rural onslaught Trump commanded. If you look at the vote totals you can see the clear decline from 2012 to 2016 in those areas, as well in university/college areas. I am NOT blaming this on black people btw...pretty sure even if she matched Obama's 2012 numbers with blacks, she would have still loss because she did so much worse with whites than Obama.

Think about that. The black dude did better with white people. Twice. Which is why I keep saying white people got us into this mess and white people will get us out...and if not, we're fukked. Sad to see a lot of 2020 candidates running the same Hillary playbook and having next to no message for the midwest. You want to beat Trump? Take back MI/WI/PA. Trump's tariff policy has resulted in his popularity tanking in those states, but democrats still need to go overboard to appeal to those people IMO.

you make some very valid points... however, and i hate to say this, but obama may have also hurt hillary's chances in michigan... obama came to flint and proclaimed the water safe to drink and that the problem was resolved all while knowing it wasn't... doesn't matter if you think it was obama's or snyder's responsibility to fix, obama said his administration resolved it... that kind of thing depresses voter turnout....

 

[acri1]

I'm of the opinion this is all on Hillary. She was uniquely disliked, uniquely bad.

Hillary had a lot of baggage and didn't run a very good campaign, but you're underestimating the role that sheer 'cism (and to some extent, 'xism) played.

A lot of voters just wanted a white guy to be president again so things could go "back to normal". And I'm not just saying that, there are academic studies on the subject.

 

[Reece]

I keep thinking about an Obama quote from 2008. He was asked why he campaigns in white rural areas that everyone knows he will lose. He said you have to show your face to those voters, because it's the difference between losing a county/district by 15 points and losing it by 30. Hillary didn't show up, across the nation, and got destroyed in many of those type of areas.

She ran a lazy, entitled campaign and got out worked by an obese 70 year old man. I have no sympathy for her. Obama will probably be the most popular dude on the planet until he dies. Hillary's fate will always be as a bitter, entitled loser.

Hilary was already picking out White House china patterns and going on dinner dates with Wall Street elite and Silicon Valley execs. Acting like it was a foregone conclusion that she won. She got a near fatal dose of ether, almost to the point of me pitying her because I know she's gonna obsess about that loss for the rest of her life. All she had to do was get on a plane and go to the rural states. All she had to do was have actual policies to help people instead of thinking she should be president because it was her time. I wish Warren, Biden, Kamala and all these 2020 candidates ran back then because maybe we wouldn't have even had a Trump Presidency to begin with.

 

[jj23]

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If the DEM candidate loses to Trump in 2020 I bet some of you will find a way to blame her for it.

 

[Piff Perkins]

Hilary was already picking out White House china patterns and going on dinner dates with Wall Street elite and Silicon Valley execs. Acting like it was a foregone conclusion that she won. She got a near fatal dose of ether, almost to the point of me pitying her because I know she's gonna obsess about that loss for the rest of her life. All she had to do was get on a plane and go to the rural states. All she had to do was have actual policies to help people instead of thinking she should be president because it was her time. I wish Warren, Biden, Kamala and all these 2020 candidates ran back then because maybe we wouldn't have even had a Trump Presidency to begin with.

While the Clinton machine was certainly formidable and she prob would have won regardless...I also wish that some of these candidates ran in 2016 against her. 2008 proved that the longer she campaigns in a state, the worst off she does because a lot of people genuinely don't like her. Folks forget, but she came in THIRD in Iowa in 2008. Obama won, but remember Edwards came in second place. Hillary started as the favorite and basically tried to waltz into the win. Her staff didn't even know how the caucus operated. Meanwhile Obama's people spent months studying the rules and process...then put that shyt to work beautifully.

Then she won NH after crying because big bad Obama and the media were sooo mean to her.

Hillary is super smart and I agree with her on various things...but she's not president material. Her arrogance ended in a looot of people getting hurt. Speaking of hurt people btw...these democrats spend so much time begging Hispanic people for votes while not realizing a large portion of them don't fukk with illegal immigration and are trying to pass as white. This isn't gonna be like the black or Asian or Arab vote, where it's 70%+ going to democrats. Hispanics are NOT a monolith and 35-40% will keep voting for Trump no matter how many goodies democrats dangle in front of them.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Obama was right she refused to put the work in and thought shyt was going to be a cake walk..

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

They lost cause they cheated Bernie.

Whether you Bernie Bros want to admit it, he would've suffered the same fate as Hillary

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Whether you Bernie Bros want to admit it, he would've suffered the same fate as Hillary

You can keep repeating that mantra to yourself but with absolutely zero evidence to support it, it's just a feel-good slogan.

Believe that Bernie wouldn't have done just 0.5% better in states where he was polling 5-10% better than Hillary was and has 20+% better likability. Those white working class upper midwest/northeast states were the core of his support and the EXACT places where he would have outperformed Hillary to win.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Obama is one who ain't gonna blame this shyt on Bernie cause he knows exactly what it's like to campaign against the Clinton machine and then have to pretend to like her as a person afterwards. He could be magnanimous because he won, he must view Bernie as a saint to have put up with all that bullshyt and still endorse her and campaign for her like that.

There was a big political mandate in 2009. Obama was popular and people from the administration now openly saying they fukked up by not being bold and listening to the Rubinites about deficits is eye-opening.

Stimulus should have been larger.

Medicaid Expansion could have happened right in the midst of the recession.

White collar crooks being prosecuted.

Writing down mortgages and helping main street get legit help not short sales/foreclosures.

Vigilance against mergers/acquisitions especially those in agriculture that have killed rural America...remember, Obama did very well in rural areas in 2008.

I could list another dozen policies on top of that. There was so much more he could have done. But he governed like someone who was most concerned with the prospects of the party, the support of lobbyists, and conventional wisdom about playing to the center. It was not who he campaigned as at all.

Obama should’ve never kissed her imaginary ring, tried to pacify all the old Clinton cronies, make her her Sec of State, etc. Should’ve been like bytch I won it’s my party now

At the time I thought it was a good move to solidify the base (Lincoln-style Team of Rivals crap). Now I fear you may be completely right.

Obama taking it personally just shows as smart as he is he still underestimates racism and over estimates how well he and his policies were liked. I think David Cameron said he thought Obama was pretty vain. This comment kinda reflects that.

Uh, if you think racism is a bigger deal than Obama does, yet Obama won by clear margins twice, then maybe he deserves to be every bit as vain as he is.

If Clinton had captured even close to as much of the Black vote as Obama did, she'd be president right now. Racism is only part of what did her in.

Hilary was not his successor

I loved Obama but I voted for trump

negged

I can understand a no-vote if you can't tolerate Hillary, but a vote for Trump is a vote for White Supremacy.

 

[5n0man]

Hilary was not his successor

I loved Obama but I voted for trump

You loved Obama but voted for someone to undo everything he managed to accomplish.


You make no sense.

 

[RAX 010]

Claim to be against oppression and white Supremacy but then condemn and neg folks for voicing their political opinions that differ from yours brehs....

 

[jj23]

While the Clinton machine was certainly formidable and she prob would have won regardless...I also wish that some of these candidates ran in 2016 against her. 2008 proved that the longer she campaigns in a state, the worst off she does because a lot of people genuinely don't like her. Folks forget, but she came in THIRD in Iowa in 2008. Obama won, but remember Edwards came in second place. Hillary started as the favorite and basically tried to waltz into the win. Her staff didn't even know how the caucus operated. Meanwhile Obama's people spent months studying the rules and process...then put that shyt to work beautifully.

Then she won NH after crying because big bad Obama and the media were sooo mean to her.

Hillary is super smart and I agree with her on various things...but she's not president material. Her arrogance ended in a looot of people getting hurt. Speaking of hurt people btw...these democrats spend so much time begging Hispanic people for votes while not realizing a large portion of them don't fukk with illegal immigration and are trying to pass as white. This isn't gonna be like the black or Asian or Arab vote, where it's 70%+ going to democrats. Hispanics are NOT a monolith and 35-40% will keep voting for Trump no matter how many goodies democrats dangle in front of them.

You know what. That's actually valid criticism.

 

[Serious]

It's official. Obama agrees. Hillary is trash.

Lets see @Atlrocafella juelz his way out of this

 

[Secure Da Bag]

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If the DEM candidate loses to Trump in 2020 I bet some of you will find a way to blame her for it.

If she tries to be a shadow candidate, then yeah. Or Lord forbid, she tries to be in a VP spot.

 

[the cac mamba]

Claim to be against oppression and white Supremacy but then condemn and neg folks for voicing their political opinions that differ from yours brehs....

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