Official 2020 Democratic Primary Debate Thread

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

There are too many damn debates what is the point of having so many of them?

All they do is go on stage and shyt on each other shyt is stupid to me..

These debates are accomplishing nothing but having them all tear each other down

Many people said they werent going to pay attention until 2020/closer to voting/until the field got smaller compared to last year and there being two debate nights of 10 each

 

[blotter]

How many people make up Trumpset? Just because we are different in other ways, politically they can lock and step in the cult of personality that is Bernie.

whatever you need to tell yourself..

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

How naive are you?

Have you never seen a political hit job before? There were two people in that room and Bernie didn’t leak it so that kind of narrows it down

Not particularly at all but I’m also not a fantasist. Where’s the proof? I mean I’m sure Bernie’s base thinks Warren invited Bernie to that meeting years ago and then orchestrated this now to ruin him.

 

[Robbie3000]

The whole Bernie Bros. thing is a myth that's taken a life of it's own. Genie is out of the bottle unfortunately.

Regardless of how often it's dissected to show it's not remotely accurate, the smear ain't going anywhere and will continue to unfairly stain any and all of his supporters by the larger mainstream press and internet.

So even though my black ass doesn't have a single social media account and I graduated college when half of these faux progressives were still in grade school, I must be a dude-bro white boy living on campus spamming Twitter all day just because I'm sick of seeing people I loved who were close to me die from a lack of healthcare.

It's entitled white women victim hood. White women are desperate to have a white woman as president at all costs. Bernie Sanders, an old white man, and his supporters are an easy target for all kinds of misogynists and sexist charges with or without merit.

It's disgusting.

What I can't figure is what nikkas on this site are getting out of white women identity politics being played other than a few daps for virtue signaling.

 

[duncanthetall]

Yeah, it’s obvious to anyone that this would have hurt Warren more than helped her, so unless you’re right and her team has willingly thrown away all the work they’ve done over the past year and sacrificed her to take down Bernie out of vengeance, the more likely scenario is this wasn’t actually leaked by her or her campaign, but rather by some people in her orbit who heard the story and dislike Bernie and foolishly popped off to some reporters. She’s been harmed by this more than anyone. If you’re right and it’s Clinton-Obama staffers who sold her out, it’s the biggest betrayal/mutiny of a candidate I’ve ever seen.

You have too much faith in the political acumen of the Clinton staffers on her side. They probably don’t know wtf they’re doing....still

 

[DonKnock]

Not particularly at all but I’m also not a fantasist. Where’s the proof? I mean I’m sure Bernie’s base thinks Warren invited Bernie to that meeting years ago and then orchestrated this now to ruin him.

Stop playing stupid

The very existence of the report is proof. You have two people in a private conversation with no eavesdroppers and Bernie didn't leak it. It clearly came from Warren.


No one is saying she set the meeting up to sabotage, now you are strawmanning because you are caught in a dumb stance.

 

[DonKnock]

Bernie bros are corny. I’m starting to feel where Hilary was coming from. You spent your whole political career as an Independent and then when it’s time to run for President you want to join up and use the platform of the party you rebuffed for decades. Your supporters are perfectly fine with the Democratic Party, the Media and Liberals as long as Bernie wins the nomination but if he doesn’t then they’re all staying home. A lot of those comments on YouTube eerily resemble Trumpset. And a lot of those cornballs did vote for Trump last time or voted Independent which was essentially a vote for Trump.

Centrist Dems would rather lose to Trump again than have Bernie win.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Stop playing stupid

The very existence of the report is proof. You have two people in a private conversation with no eavesdroppers and Bernie didn't leak it. It clearly came from Warren.


No one is saying she set the meeting up to sabotage, now you are strawmanning because you are caught in a dumb stance.

Your understand of proof is wanting.

Bernie didn’t leak it? Such certainty

lmao

anyone could have leaked it, an angry person that is/was in either camp could’ve leaked it out of spite

whatever the case something clearly happened and Bernie and his bases response leaves a lot to be desired

 

[DonKnock]

Your understand of proof is wanting.

Bernie didn’t leak it? Such certainty

lmao

anyone could have leaked it, an angry person that is/was in either camp could’ve leaked it out of spite

whatever the case something clearly happened and Bernie and his bases response leaves a lot to be desired

Did Bernie leak Warrens public statement on it as well?

You said Bernie fans were creating a conspiracy that Warren scheduled the meeting just to have dirt and now you create your own conspiracy that it was actually Bernie's own camp that leaked a report that damages his reputation

 

[chico25]

This article on the Warren vs Bernie story calls Warren's credibility into question. It lists a number of lies or questionable statements she's made in the past.

The Credibility Gap ❧ Current Affairs

• Saying she opposed fancy wine fundraisers even though she held them herself
• Raising money using exactly the methods she now denounces as corrupting, and falsely claiming her presidential campaign was “100% grassroots funded” when it carried over millions from a Senate campaign funded by the wealthy
• Claiming her father was a janitor when her brother insists he wasn’t
• Pretending to have been representing the interests of consumers when she was in fact working for corporations who were contesting the legal claims of retired coal miners, women sickened by faulty breast implants, rural cooperatives, and dead NASCAR drivers. (The New York Times and Washington Post both investigated her claims and documented ways in which her campaign had manipulated the truth.)
• Claiming for years on government forms that her race was “American Indian”
• When a mother accused her of having sent her children to private schools, insisting her children “went to public schools” when one of them actually did go to private school
• Claiming to support Medicare For All but then, when criticized for it, backing off it completely and promising to pass something else
• Claiming that only billionaires would pay more under her Medicare For All plan, when that wasn’t true
• Allowing Harvard Law School to claim her as its first “woman of color”
• Claiming that a DNA test supported the contention that she was an American Indian, then deleting the evidence she had done this
• Claiming to have been the first nursing mother to take the New Jersey bar, then when asked for evidence, saying that she “was making a point about the very serious challenges she faced.”
• Telling a dubious story about her grandparents having to elope because of discrimination
• Saying she was “not political” in her younger years when she was in fact a “diehard conservative” Republican
• Claiming recipes she copied word for word from the New York Times were ancient Cherokee family dishes
• Pretending that she was releasing a health-care plan that did not raise middle class taxes
• Claiming to have “created the intellectual foundation” for Occupy Wall Street
• Criticizing the revolving door between the banking sector and government despite personally putting bankers in the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

Wait so your only example is one example.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You are absolutely right and it should be deaded every time it is claimed.

However, she did declare that she was Native American in several forums and publications throughout her life even though it really was bullshyt and she didn't have a minority experience in any way, shape, or form. She was the one who gave Harvard the claim to Native American status that allowed Harvard to publicly promote her as a minority hire. And she did copy a recipe word-for-word from the New York Times and then publish it in a book claiming it was an ancient family Cherokee recipe. Those aren't dealbreakers but the fact that she does that shyt is really annoying and will continue to come back to haunt her.

Yeah, there's more she's spun about her fake Native American heritage over the years that's been uncovered and posted here too. Like this video from 2012 where she claims her parents had to elope because of their Cherokee and Delaware heritage.



The defense from here supporters is she believed lies she was told by her family, and that's ridiculous. This woman is a highly intelligent, highly educated ivy league professor. You can't realistically think she was sitting there all those years as Harvard's "first tenured female minority law professor" in her 50's and 60's really believing Native American Romeo & Juliet and that she was really Native American cause she has high cheekbones. Imagine a white person saying they know they're black cause they have a wide nose.

Whether it's that, saying her dad was a janitor and her own brother publicly calling her a liar over it, or her recent corny feminist woke yass queen-ism turn this election cycle, she shows a pattern of trying to paint herself in an inauthentic way, usually to cast herself in the role of victim but she isn't really a victim of any systemic inequity.

She was happy to tout her Native American heritage cause I guess it gave her some claim to unique minority status, but tribal leaders from the Delaware and Cherokee tribes all said they didn't know who the fukk she was 20 something years ago.

 

[duncanthetall]

Yeah, there's more she's spun about her fake Native American heritage over the years that's been uncovered and posted here too. Like this video from 2012 where she claims her parents had to elope because of their Cherokee and Delaware heritage.



The defense from here supporters is she believed lies she was told by her family, and that's ridiculous. This woman is a highly intelligent, highly educated ivy league professor. You can't realistically think she was sitting there all those years as Harvard's "first tenured female minority law professor" in her 50's and 60's really believing Native American Romeo & Juliet and that she was really Native American cause she has high cheekbones. Imagine a white person saying they know they're black cause they have a wide nose.

Whether it's that, saying her dad was a janitor and her own brother publicly calling her a liar over it, or her recent corny feminist woke yass queen-ism turn this election cycle, she shows a pattern of trying to paint herself in an inauthentic way, usually to cast herself in the role of victim but she isn't really a victim of any systemic inequity.

She was happy to tout her Native American heritage cause I guess it gave her some claim to unique minority status, but tribal leaders from the Delaware and Cherokee tribes all said they didn't know who the fukk she was 20 something years ago.

Native American Romeo & Juliet. I’m weak

 

[Reece]

Yeah, there's more she's spun about her fake Native American heritage over the years that's been uncovered and posted here too. Like this video from 2012 where she claims her parents had to elope because of their Cherokee and Delaware heritage.



The defense from here supporters is she believed lies she was told by her family, and that's ridiculous. This woman is a highly intelligent, highly educated ivy league professor. You can't realistically think she was sitting there all those years as Harvard's "first tenured female minority law professor" in her 50's and 60's really believing Native American Romeo & Juliet and that she was really Native American cause she has high cheekbones. Imagine a white person saying they know they're black cause they have a wide nose.

Whether it's that, saying her dad was a janitor and her own brother publicly calling her a liar over it, or her recent corny feminist woke yass queen-ism turn this election cycle, she shows a pattern of trying to paint herself in an inauthentic way, usually to cast herself in the role of victim but she isn't really a victim of any systemic inequity.

She was happy to tout her Native American heritage cause I guess it gave her some claim to unique minority status, but tribal leaders from the Delaware and Cherokee tribes all said they didn't know who the fukk she was 20 something years ago.

I don’t even know what this supposed to prove. I thought I was Native American until 2018. Am I a liar too My dad is 67 year old man who thought he was quarter Native his whole life. I busted his bubble last year...was he a liar All my aunts and uncles. My grandmom was a 89 year old woman who went to her grave thinking she was Native. Was she a liar If you frequented all the testing forums and community groups you know this was a common scenario with Americans as everyone swears they’re Native when they just had mulatto ancestors instead but you Coli nikkas love talking out of your ass. You brought up her age when genome testing didn’t become cheap, convenient, accessible and widely available until 5-7 years ago. Wasn’t no one testing their lineage in large amounts in the 80s, 90s, 2000s or even the early 2010s. 23&Me started in 2007. Again. Moot point. I don’t get the tribe comment either. Every Mexican walking through America likely has 50% or more Native heritage with many having direct ancestry to tribes from California, Arizona, Texas and other Southwest American regions. How many of them you think are recognized and have official tribe status Warren was born and raised in Oklahoma which has one of the largest NA populations in the country. Andrew Johnson forced Natives to relocate there during the Trail of Tears. Can easily buy her family believing the Indian fairy tale. And as you just said, she’s a Harvard educated woman. Why would an Ivy League graduate lie about something so publicly and go into public office knowing every ounce of her background will be searched with a finetooth comb and that her lies can easily be disproved and exposed. Common sense would tell you she wouldn’t embarrass herself like that I think she had to know on some level that she was mostly white and shouldn’t be telling people she was Native when she was mostly something else but I don’t buy her purposely concocting a lie and creating a false reality. No one in their right mind would do that and run for office. Her family likely told her they had Native blood like every family in America tells their kids and she went overboard with it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I don’t even know what this supposed to prove. I thought I was Native American until 2018. Am I a liar too My dad is 67 year old man who thought he was quarter Native his whole life. I busted his bubble last year...was he a liar All my aunts and uncles. My grandmom was a 89 year old woman who went to her grave thinking she was Native. Was she a liar If you frequented all the testing forums and community groups you know this was a common scenario with Americans as everyone swears they’re Native when they just had mulatto ancestors instead but you Coli nikkas love talking out of your ass. You brought up her age when genome testing didn’t become cheap, convenient, accessible and widely available until 5-7 years ago. Wasn’t no one testing their lineage in large amounts in the 80s, 90s, 2000s or even the early 2010s. 23&Me started in 2007. Again. Moot point. I don’t get the tribe comment either. Every Mexican walking through America likely has 50% or more Native heritage with many having direct ancestry to tribes from California, Arizona, Texas and other Southwest American regions. How many of them you think are recognized and have official tribe status Warren was born and raised in Oklahoma which has one of the largest NA populations in the country. Andrew Johnson forced Natives to relocate there during the Trail of Tears. Can easily buy her family believing the Indian fairy tale. And as you just said, she’s a Harvard educated woman. Why would an Ivy League graduate lie about something so publicly and go into public office knowing every ounce of her background will be searched with a finetooth comb and that her lies can easily be disproved and exposed. Common sense would tell you she wouldn’t embarrass herself like that I think she had to know on some level that she was mostly white and shouldn’t be telling people she was Native when she was mostly something else but I don’t buy her purposely concocting a lie and creating a false reality. No one in their right mind would do that and run for office. Her family likely told her they had Native blood like every family in America tells their kids and she went overboard with it. Nothing more. Nothing less.

You and your family sound goofy as fukk. Sorry.

 

[Reece]

You and your family sound goofy as fukk. Sorry.

You sound like you mom drunk every day of her pregnancy

fukk you and I’m not sorry fakkit