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Won't make a difference. Saw a poll where people blame dems for the shutdown.

No one is speaking about or outraged over Trump's threats to fire more workers.

America is disconnected from reality right now.
Yep, yesterday Trump was framing it as Dems wanted to shut down the government to give illegal immigrants healthcare and let trannies play women's sports. Facts don't matter.
 

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Dems can't capitulate here. Since November people have been scratching their heads and calling leadership weak and spineless. A show of force right now is probably the best move they can make. Very rarely do Rethugs make concessions on their issues when they want something passed. I also find it interesting that this is the 3rd shutdown under a Trump era, and it probably won't be the last. It also seems like GOP were waiting for a shutdown to implement some more bs. Where are the very smart strategic Dems at?
 

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Like that meme with China, all the Democrats got to do here is:
“Do nothing. Win.”

Let these Republicans dog walk themselves. It’s their Congress anyways.

This is all Republican-generated.

I don't have any evidence to post up, but it often seems like Dems have a sure win....and do something to mess it up.
 

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I don't have any evidence to post up, but it often seems like Dems have a sure win....and do something to mess it up.
Yup. All they got to do here is sit back. shyt, take a vacation. Maybe troll. Democrats have the truth on their side.

When people want to complain about them “not helping” they just got to point out it’s all Republicans in the three major branches people voted for.

Dare people to vote for it again if they want the same and stop complaining. People will beg them to come back like some bytch ass people or not and continue to do worse. Their call.
 
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Dems can't capitulate here. Since November people have been scratching their heads and calling leadership weak and spineless. A show of force right now is probably the best move they can make. Very rarely do Rethugs make concessions on their issues when they want something passed. I also find it interesting that this is the 3rd shutdown under a Trump era, and it probably won't be the last. It also seems like GOP were waiting for a shutdown to implement some more bs. Where are the very smart strategic Dems at?
The smart dems are tired of the republicans bullshyt.

The whole damn party is tired of these cocksuckers bullshyt

here is my thing the average person ain’t going to these websites or calling government employees. The democrats been planning the messaging for this for WEEKS the republicans been crying about Charlie Kirk and doing stupid shyt and now they just outright lying.

If Undocumented Migrants was getting health care Donald Trump would be flooding hospitals with ICE agents. These dumb motherfukker can’t lie their way out of this bullshyt.
 

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I don't have any evidence to post up, but it often seems like Dems have a sure win....and do something to mess it up.

Shutting down the government - or threatening to do so - almost never works. The president has the leverage and eventually the other side gives up because of the damage they're taking. We saw this for 8 years with Obama. Obama dog walked them every other year on this. I remember the last time he was walking around DC tourist areas taking a victory lap, telling tourists that various sites were open because he didn't cave lol.

I get why dems did it. Maybe Trump is uniquely unfit for the moment and caves instead. We'll see.
 

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Shutting down the government - or threatening to do so - almost never works. The president has the leverage and eventually the other side gives up because of the damage they're taking. We saw this for 8 years with Obama. Obama dog walked them every other year on this. I remember the last time he was walking around DC tourist areas taking a victory lap, telling tourists that various sites were open because he didn't cave lol.

I get why dems did it. Maybe Trump is uniquely unfit for the moment and caves instead. We'll see.
Trump lost his shutdown in 2019. I think we break the record, but he blinks. There isn’t anything he can do, and no one believes republicans that the democrats want to give undocumented people insurance. The republicans wasn’t focused on messaging and don’t have one to blame democrats with.

If he follows through on his threats, that just adds to the democrats demanding they reverse it before they end it.
 

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Trump lost his shutdown in 2019. I think we break the record, but he blinks. There isn’t anything he can do, and no one believes republicans that the democrats want to give undocumented people insurance. The republicans wasn’t focused on messaging and don’t have one to blame democrats with.

If he follows through on his threats, that just adds to the democrats demanding they reverse it before they end it.
Yeah, in this case the Democrats are on the side of the truth and justice. The side with good intentions aren’t the ones who have to cave.

The ones who cave know they’re in the wrong and are trying to play chicken to hopefully “luck out” and get their way. Simply childish and spoiled.
 

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the historical carnage that Trump and his minions have enacted up on this country will not be kind in the halls of history. He thinks it's going to be one way when it will 100% be the other.

Faux News, Limbaugh, and all these other entities that have pushed this divisive :mjpls: bullshyt for decades created this.

And if it gets fixed, it won't be a quick one.

Still not even a fukkin year in with this moron and stooges.
 
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