Official '24-25 NY Knicks Offseason Thread

[RickyGQ]

This trade benefits Phoenix so damn much they would fools not to take this deal. That being said Julius isn’t eligible to be traded right now unless he opts into his final year. He probably doesn’t do that without a contract extension.

Trading Mitch for Donte doesn’t seem like a smart move. Mitch is too damn impactful

Would you start him to maximize that impact?

(This is strictly a thought exercise. I love Mitch and would be sad if we traded him. But if it means getting Donte, or a player of that caliber at the 2, I’d consider it).

 

[RickyGQ]

Not a fan of revisiting the Obi dump, but it is a comment on why I’d like to see someone else take a stab at this roster.

 

[ISO]

This was all dependent on the unlikely KD scenario.
Phoenix would get Randle, Mitch, Dillingham and Shannon. Minny gets KD. Knicks get Donte.

Another workaround would be offloading Mitch to WAS and Minny getting cap relief.

I can’t see them doing that Dillingham and Shannon have too much potential.

 

[ISO]

Not a fan of revisiting the Obi dump, but it is a comment on why I’d like to see someone else take a stab at this roster.

Obi is who he is because of his development on the Knicks where he was made into more of a SF.

His role and minutes haven’t changed much what you’re seeing is his actualization as he is now a 27 year old vet.

 

[RickyGQ]

I can’t see them doing that Dillingham and Shannon have too much potential.

I feel you. Only way the money works. PHX can only trade KD by himself because of apron stuff.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

This is not helping the stereotype that the only thing NYC ball players can do is dribble

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

 

[Wargames]

It’s crazy cause there was talk of an exhaustive search but it looks like it’s between those two. People shyt on Brown but he is solid at player relationships, and coached teams to the finals, and been the assistant coach on a lot of great Warrior teams.

Jenkins did some impressive stuff with the Grizzlies. Especially development, and maintaining a deep rotation, but his playoff record isn’t particularly good. He’s been out coached before.

There have been better coaches available the last few summers. So leave it to the Knicks to need a coach the summer there is a scarcity. I also think Malone for all his bullshyt should have got an interview since he’s led a team to a championship. Same for Bryant.

Gun to the head, I think you go Brown based on the playoff experience, but you hire him with the understanding he cant be on that Thibs bullshyt with short rotation and you install a development staff around him.

I just don’t think you risk Jenkins fukking up in the post season and being out coached.

 

[RickyGQ]

Article: https://archive.ph/xVARG

 

[ISO]

It’s crazy cause there was talk of an exhaustive search but it looks like it’s between those two. People shyt on Brown but he is solid at player relationships, and coached teams to the finals, and been the assistant coach on a lot of great Warrior teams.

Jenkins did some impressive stuff with the Grizzlies. Especially development, and maintaining a deep rotation, but his playoff record isn’t particularly good. He’s been out coached before.

There have been better coaches available the last few summers. So leave it to the Knicks to need a coach the summer there is a scarcity. I also think Malone for all his bullshyt should have got an interview since he’s led a team to a championship. Same for Bryant.

Gun to the head, I think you go Brown based on the playoff experience, but you hire him with the understanding he cant be on that Thibs bullshyt with short rotation and you install a development staff around him.

I just don’t think you risk Jenkins fukking up in the post season and being out coached.

What’s the obsession with big rotations

 

[Anerdyblackguy]

What’s the obsession with big rotations

You not watching the finals? Indiana and OKC are going 9-10 deep in their rotations. You need a deep bench in this era of second apron NBA if you want to win a title.

 

[ISO]

You not watching the finals? Indiana and OKC are going 9-10 deep in their rotations. You need a deep bench in this era of second apron NBA if you want to win a title.

I knew someone would say that shyt on some recency bias shyt. Like Boston and Denver didn’t just win playing 7 guys.

Indiana and OKC actually have talent on the bench (and OKC won’t be this deep much longer they have guys to pay). I’d love a deep bench. I’d love to be able to go 10 deep. We don’t have the fukking guys. The hypocrisy is watching fukking Knicks fan complain on Twitter when the likes of Sims, Achiuwa, and Payne touched the floor while crying that these young players who clearly aren’t ready weren’t getting major rotational minutes and questioning why a ‘washed’ Delon Wright was brought in to then jump on his dikk.

Kidd, nor Udoka, nor Finch, nor Brown, nor Mazzula, nor Malone are deep rotation coaches.

Jenkins was but fans complained about that too.

Deep rotation doesn’t work on a team like the Knicks that has little to no depth where there is a chance that no one on last years team will be in the NBA in 3 seasons outside of Robinson (whose really a starter) and Deuce (maybe). U will trade a set of critiques for another set like rotations, questionable substitutions, and players do become disgruntled which is exactly how it went down with Jenkins.

 

[ECA]

You not watching the finals? Indiana and OKC are going 9-10 deep in their rotations. You need a deep bench in this era of second apron NBA if you want to win a title.

Next coach just needs to maximize their top 7 come playoff time. Deuce had nights where he only played 10 minutes, MIkal and Josh would play all 48 and Mitch sometimes wouldn't even see minutes in the 4th.

 

[No Homo]

I knew someone would say that shyt on some recency bias shyt. Like Boston and Denver didn’t just win playing 7 guys.

Indiana and OKC actually have talent on the bench (and OKC won’t be this deep much longer they have guys to pay). I’d love a deep bench. I’d love to be able to go 10 deep. We don’t have the fukking guys. The hypocrisy is watching fukking Knicks fan complain on Twitter when the likes of Sims, Achiuwa, and Payne touched the floor while crying that these young players who clearly aren’t ready weren’t getting major rotational minutes and questioning why a ‘washed’ Delon Wright was brought in.

Kidd, nor Udoka, nor Finch, nor Brown, nor Mazzula, nor Malone are deep rotation coaches.

Jenkins was but fans complained about that too.

Deep rotation doesn’t work on a team like the Knicks that has little to no depth where there is a chance that no one on last years team will be in the NBA in 3 seasons outside of Robinson (whose really a starter) and Deuce (maybe). U will trade a set of critiques for another set like rotations, questionable substitutions, and players do become disgruntled which is exactly how it went down with Jenkins.

Ive told all my knick fans friends and fam this same thing

I keep asking them if they would bring this same exact team back next year from starters to bench with a different coach and all i get for an answer is

 

[Wargames]

I knew someone would say that shyt on some recency bias shyt. Like Boston and Denver didn’t just win playing 7 guys.

Indiana and OKC actually have talent on the bench (and OKC won’t be this deep much longer they have guys to pay). I’d love a deep bench. I’d love to be able to go 10 deep. We don’t have the fukking guys. The hypocrisy is watching fukking Knicks fan complain on Twitter when the likes of Sims, Achiuwa, and Payne touched the floor while crying that these young players who clearly aren’t ready weren’t getting major rotational minutes and questioning why a ‘washed’ Delon Wright was brought in.

Kidd, nor Udoka, nor Finch, nor Brown, nor Mazzula, nor Malone are deep rotation coaches.

Jenkins was but fans complained about that too.

Deep rotation doesn’t work on a team like the Knicks that has little to no depth where there is a chance that no one on last years team will be in the NBA in 3 seasons outside of Robinson (whose really a starter) and Deuce (maybe). U will trade a set of critiques for another set like rotations, questionable substitutions, and players do become disgruntled which is exactly how it went down with Jenkins.

Why do you think the pacers beat the Knicks. You don’t think it was the coaching and now you’re saying it’s not because they were deeper. So why do you think the Knicks lost that series?