Official Biden vs. Trump 2020 General Election Thread (Biden WINS 306 Electoral College Votes)

Who wins?

  • Joe Biden, Vice President of the USA (2009-2017)

    Votes: 440 81.6%
  • Donald Trump, President of the USA (2017-present)

    Votes: 99 18.4%

  • Total voters
    539
  • Poll closed .

TheDarceKnight

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does this include mail-in ballots ? if it does, and those estimates were right (60% of 2.2m ballots were dem), shyt finna be so close there will be a scandal no matter who wins
No matter what happens I am not liking that it ended up being this close. When the votes are all counted I think Biden will look a lot stronger on the electoral map than I was thinking two hours ago when I was worried about Biden maybe winning but underneath 280 and there was even a possible scenario of a tie at 269-269.

But I do worry in the interim how the nation is going to handle this if Trump fans the flames of the election being stolen from him, etc. I didn't need a landslide Biden win to feel comfortable but I am not happy that it has been this close.

I'm not trying to rain on any positivity but I'll just say yet again that this race had no business being close
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But I'm at least going to be able to sleep okay tonight
 

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Nate Silver said Biden can win with Arizona + Nebraska and sacrifice PA
 
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People can give up on a progressive leftist president. We need to get those people in the house, senate and in state level positions

What we have learned in 2016 and 2020 is that Dems need a candidate that some white rural voters Will be comfortable with voting for.
Not really. We just ran that exact sort of guy in Biden and it made no difference. You guys keep drawing all sorts of conclusions that run in the face of actual evidence. The idea of running a person who doesn’t get blown out in rural areas is right - like Obama. But the idea that it is centrist policies as opposed to the person that makes them comfortable is the error. You’re also ignoring how much those people have become radicalized in the past decade. They are further to the right now than they were in 08. Instead of focusing on driving turnout among people of color which is what got you the supermajority in 08, you’re talking about catering to Republicans which is what got you where you are right now.
 

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Latin America has a legacy of white supremacy that people often forget about since our common idea of Hispanic people is the mixed or Afro-Latin types. Seems like the same dynamic except they reaching to be at the cac American table as opposed to the Spanish speaking cac.

Also, many in immigrant groups typically try hard to align themselves with the dominant group in the society. This isn’t to say all Spanish speaking people are with Trump but it does kinda reveal the racial caste system baggage that they come to this country with.
I think at least for cubans, they hate socialism so much that they naturally lean the other extreme - which is right wing. not sure about the mexicans tho
 
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