Official War With Iran Thread

[Jmare007]

this was always a known thing

I guess if it helps Iran apologists cope online then that's great.

what was always known thing?

not sure what is a cope in this situation either.

The US and Israel are bombing the shyt out of Iran and its infrastructure. And Iran is throwing hundreds of puny drones that make enough of a dent to become annoying, a threat and force to use very expensive ammo. And they don't need the "fancy" shyt that's getting bombed to oblivion, then can throw those damn drones from a truck that takes like a week to convert and make it usable to send those drones.

This whole thing is gonna be weeks of "US/Israel destroyed a bunch of important shyt" + "Iran keeps bombing the Gulf" over and over.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

 

[Insensitive]

Iran literally hit key infrastructure around their nation.
The "indiscriminate bombing" was aimed at US Bases and several radars - the goal is to exhaust our
highly expensive, slowly replenishing missiles. - They've made substantial progress on this.

Next was to shut down the Hormuz straight - this has been done.

Next is crippling our allies economically within the region and outside of it. (This is currently happening).

Our bases are already evacuated, this has forever changed the landscape over there.
And nations like Dubai could not only enter a recession or depression but functionally never recover
due to a change in both reputation and economic output.

This has been covered extensively *within this thread*.


Again, this is also being priced into the market and we're seeing rising energy prices due to this (Americans will feel less of this, our
allies will feel it more).

Painting Iran as belligerent, stupid or not making meaningful gains when we're literally seeing the timeline
for the war extending by the day, is again, reality denial.

 

[Loose]

Us basically destroying the oldest architecture we have in the world to appease trump. Persians are prideful people you going to have to slaughter all of them with boots on the ground if you want to " win" this war

 

[Serious]

fukking trump is such a global liability

 

[Hood Critic]

I'm pretty sure that trying to get Ukraine into NATO, sending them equipment and training their military, supporting
the 2014 Maidan Revolution and continuing to support Ukraine after these decisions force their neighbor to shut
the bullshyt down is actually what helped to spark it.

Unless of course, you think it's a smart idea to antagonize a country by cozying up to a small nation directly on their border and arming them or whatever.

Y'all can keep playing stupid if you want to.

So you're justifying the annexing of Crimea in 2014?

 

[Insensitive]

This is one of those times where the usual obfuscation and political sophistry
will not work.

The longer this conflict goes, the harder it is to deny our positioning.
The first couple days, we could joke and laugh and play it off.

But within the next month or so expect to see Japan, South Korea, Germany,
Spain, etc. start talking about the PAIN they're experiencing purely off of the
spike in Energy prices.

This will also affect food production.

Master stroke in strategy from Iran and it gives the impression that they gamed
out this worst case scenario well before we ever did this goofy shyt.

So you're justifying the annexing of Crimea in 2014?

It's kinda wild to reduce that situation or my post to just that.

 

[Robbie3000]

So you're justifying the annexing of Crimea in 2014?

Ukraine is a victim of both the U.S machinations and Russia’s response to U.S provocations.

Y’all need to realize that the U.S is almost always the bad guy in these things.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

 

[mastermind]

Ukraine is a victim of both the U.S machinations and Russia’s response to U.S provocations.

Y’all need to realize that the U.S is almost always the bad guy in these things.

Yeah, there is a lot of grey which does not fit in how Americans are taught geopolitics.

Russia and the US were and are the bad guys in Ukraine.

 

[Insensitive]

Marvel and Star wars need to pay for their crimes.
We have a generation of adults who sincerely and genuinely believe in this "good guys" vs. "bad guys" thing
instead of a very complex relationship between two nations playing out in real time and the loss of life that follows their
decisions.

 

[Megadeus]

Well let’s see. We have only two economic and military superpowers on the planet. One has been chilling.

The other one has in the last four years.

1. Engaged in genocide

2. Started tariff wars with almost every country on the planet.

3. Kidnapped the President of a sovereign nation without a plan under trumped up charges.

4. Protected child rapists including the president in a global pedophilia ring

5. Started a war in the middle of a negotiation that is destabilizing the world economy and could very well trigger world war 3.

Like what are we talking about? We still running with the “China bad, U.S good ” propaganda?

 

[Hood Critic]

It's kinda wild to reduce that situation or my post to just that.

I'm being reductive, yet you literally used the Kremlins talking points to justify the war in general.

Ukraine is a victim of both the U.S machinations and Russia’s response to U.S provocations.

Y’all need to realize that the U.S is almost always the bad guy in these things.

United States, bad - cool I got it.

Just so I'm clear, we're going to ignore the reasons Ukraine wanted to be in NATO and skip right to the west entertaining those desires as an acceptable catalyst for the current Ukraine/Russia war - because well, the US by default is the bad guy?

 

[Hood Critic]

Marvel and Star wars need to pay for their crimes.
We have a generation of adults who sincerely and genuinely believe in this "good guys" vs. "bad guys" thing
instead of a very complex relationship between two nations playing out in real time and the loss of life that follows their
decisions.

This is why I love this forum despite the odd ball characters who live here. The grandiose air of understanding.

 

[Insensitive]

I'm being reductive, yet you literally used the Kremlins talking points to justify the war in general.



United States, bad - cool I got it.

Just so I'm clear, we're going to ignore the reasons Ukraine wanted to be in NATO and skip right to the west entertaining those desires as an acceptable catalyst for the current Ukraine/Russia war - because well, the US by default is the bad guy?

I didn't "use their talking points".
I gave a point-by-point reasoning for why a nation would have an issue with their geopolitical rival setting up
shop in their backyard.

Are you prone to letting shooters camp in your driveway? or?

This is why I love this forum despite the odd ball characters who live here. The grandiose air of understanding.

I think I've shown quite a bit of understanding in this thread.

You on the other hand were pretty reductive and dismissive and instead of addressing what I actually stated
you started talking about the "kremlin" or whatever.