I agree but I don't know about using the term "greatness" in any aspect of Kanye as a rapper. His best bars aim and fall significantly short of a ton rapper who are more proficient at that. I always thought Kanye was great because he had a great ear for the next step in hip hop production and has the bravado of a legendary cultural icon. Yeezus ranks right at the top for me when considering the production only, at the top as far as mic presence and delivery, and near the bottom lyrically, but who puts in a Kanye cd for the lyrics?
Oh Yeezus, not this again
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I agree but I don't know about using the term "greatness" in any aspect of Kanye as a rapper. His best bars aim and fall significantly short of a ton rapper who are more proficient at that. I always thought Kanye was great because he had a great ear for the next step in hip hop production and has the bravado of a legendary cultural icon. Yeezus ranks right at the top for me when considering the production only, at the top as far as mic presence and delivery, and near the bottom lyrically, but who puts in a Kanye cd for the lyrics?
Jay has been friends with Wes for a long ass time. I don't know why he would call Kanye World Wide West, when there's an OG who is also his man called World Wide Wes, who he's now in business with through Roc Nation Sports, they also worked closely through Nets when they were attracting ballers and all that."Still rock la famila"
I don't know, it depends on what you consider.. I feel like Kanye is (was) a suburban/soft version of Pac.
Songs like
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Lol, nah. But once I really sat down with it with a clean slate (hadn't listened to anything else since that would affect my mood) i was able to actually hear the album...and I love itPaid posters all throughout this thread.... I see you nikkaz
Classic Album and Thread brehs.....I felt the same way about Hold My Liquor at first. But then After listening to the album for weeks I realized something. Now this is my own analysis and opinion of the album...But Hold my Liquor is the glue that holds the whole shyt together. To me it signals the transition in the feel of the album as a whole. Every song at the beginning is harsh and abrasive and not really about nothing except Yeezus being Yeezus and stuntin on you nikkas. The beginning is shocking and even offensive to most. From On Sight til New Slaves that shyt has you on some fukk ERRRBODY shyt.
Then there is a break after that sad ass singin on New Slaves...and its like nikkas is waking up out of a pro black Gawd like state...and back to the real world. Where the only shyt nikkas got control over is booze and bytches and bread. So therefore that's what the rest of the album is about, and its sort of depressing to me how the album's intense feel drops off. And just when you feel exhausted after Guilt Trip....and are ready to be done with shyt. Send it up Comes blaring in with some loud ass Horns...like....WAKE UP nikka, And the cycle prepares to start again, while you gettin lifted in the club. Then out of no where there's some divine intervention and BOUND 2, the shyt we've been waiting all album to hear raps it up. Bringing back that soul feeling. And the lyrics match the feeling of finding that one bytch up in the club that can get you off ya "I AM A GAWD fukk YOU nikkaS" Feeling and calm ya ass down..hoping you can get in them draws.
Like I said...Just my thoughts and my own review of the shyt. If my coli nikkas actually read this i'll feel
if not..well
I feel this tho, I feel the same
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
Lyrical content...I always thought Ye was pretty good to very good. Now lyrical complexity, structure, etc, I'd agree that was never his strength but also never needed to be
I was bumping this all summer while most nikkas was still hating it. Good to see I wasn't alone
HowardHughes
Still hiding
I guess I haven't brain washed myself enough to like it yet
Listen to it in the whip on a Thursday, but only after rainfall, and preferably after sunset. Might have to listen to it a few times to realize you like it, but you will.
Eventually.
"Bars" mean only so much. Dude had an incredible verse on Birthday Song. Clique. and damn near most of WTT.
Its about delivery and message sometimes and Kanye definitely nails that.
Ya'll be waiting these tongue flips and shyt but overlook dudes who fulfill everything you could ask for in terms of songwriting and cadence.
We just have different views on music. Kanye's cadences and delivery is cool but I could name better. Kanye has significantly more shallow songs than he does one's with messages. He got a whole team doing most of the heavy lifting.
Having said that, LR and 808s are classics and the rest are all good albums. Yeezus is probably my second favorite after LR and both exemplify what Kanye is RELLY good at, sonics and next-level production. Dude is the best pop culture curator in music, knowing exactly what trends and artist to pull from to synthesize his albums. "Pop a wheelie on the zeitgeist" is probably the most accurate lyric he has ever said describing himself.
unstoppable589
All Star
typical coli 
album comes out, its wack. now its a classic
album is still wack as fukk
album comes out, its wack. now its a classic
album is still wack as fukk
beenz
Rap Guerilla
I originally hated this song cuz of keef. But ye saves this track. And when the song breaks down at the end........
