Ok 😒 this “everyone in history that was important was secretly black” stuff got to stop we looking crazy “Columbas was a black moor” 😒

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Damn, so who all these folks?

Moors on crests

The scholar Jean Devise has traced the earliest uses of a Moor or a Black figure in heraldry to Bavaria, the upper Rhineland, and Lower Saxony in the late thirteenth and early fourteenth centuries.…

blackcentraleurope.com

Blackamoor (decorative arts) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

I mean if you believe that then how can you believe in evolution and the out of Africa theories which are based on scientific evidence and DNA studies?

The Abrahanic religions originated in the Near East so you would assume they saw God and the first man the same color or "race" as themselves.

These books was based off of them times, who knows how true they are, but the first people was black and got lighter over time..them the facts.

The Near East people from back then had darker skin they are not the same group of people today… that’s what I’m saying

 

[tuckgod]

Moors on crests

The scholar Jean Devise has traced the earliest uses of a Moor or a Black figure in heraldry to Bavaria, the upper Rhineland, and Lower Saxony in the late thirteenth and early fourteenth centuries.…

blackcentraleurope.com

Blackamoor (decorative arts) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Geordi]

Damn, so who all these folks?

Pictures and sculptures of African slaves now commonly used by conspiracy theorists to create their alternate version of black European history

Blackamoor (decorative arts) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The term "blackamoor" or "black moor" was once a general term for black people in English,[1] "formerly without depreciatory force" as the Oxford English Dictionary puts it.[2] The style is now viewed by some as racist and culturally insensitive.[3] However, blackamoor pieces are still produced, mainly in Venice, Italy.

Blackamoors have a long history in decorative art, stretching back to 17th century Italy and the famous sculptor Andrea Brustolon (1662–1732). They are often recognized for depictions of slaves and the ornamental pieces that they inspired.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

I've seen them say Europe was all black until a group of caveman white people from the mountains with sticks and stones conquered them and threw out everybody black.

You cant reason with these people lmao

This is true though and has been proven

 

[Ty Daniels]

I dont want to confuse people reading this who might get the timelines mixed up; the first "original" Europeans came from Africa 45,000 years ago. By 5000 years ago they would have had white features with dark skin.

2023-08-16-1447 Ötzi - Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology

www.eva.mpg.de

Light skin evolved multiple times in Eurasia beginning 30000 years ago.

If you want to go back further and make people mad the first homo species after we lost our fur were probably light skinned then we evolved dark skin in the African sun.

Modern Europeans look the way they do, PRIMARY because of the Germanic/Barbarian Invasions.
For the MAJORITY of Human History, ALL HUMANS had "Black Phenotypes", that is what the data says.

Using a "Artistic Rendition" like the one you have above means nothing.

I'm basing my position on the Cranio-Facial Data, and the Limb Proportion data, and that from Africa, all the way to Siberia showed the Original humans to have "Tropical Adaptations" (Skeletal and Cranial-Facially).

- Humanity originated in Africa, the first "Anatomically Modern Humans" had "Black Phenotypes" developed in Africa.
- Those "Anatomically Modern Humans" migrated out of Africa and RETAINED African/Africoid Morphologies for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

For the first 20,000 Years after the first successful "Out Of Africa" migrations, the Human populations were just essentially "African", as they had both African phenotypes, and they were damn near identical, genetically to Africans.

After the first 20,000 years, new Genetic signatures developed in "Eurasia" that would now make them classified as "Eurasian", which has ZERO barring on the Phenotype of the people.

We still have populations today that are "Black Eurasian", that don't possess any "African DNA" but are clearly "Phenotypically Black".

Based upon the most recent data Europe was Dark Skinned, until 1,700 years ago, which also just so happens to correspond with the Germanic/Barbarian Invasions.

 

[Ty Daniels]

Pictures and sculptures of African slaves now commonly used by conspiracy theorists to create their alternate version of black European history

Blackamoor (decorative arts) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

These people were NOT SLAVES, SMH

Are YOU Even Black?????????


The "They Were Slaves" Bullshyt is a COPE,

Whites use, any and every time they see Black People depicted in places they think "they should not be".

Once again:

Are YOU Even Black?????????

 

[Sccit]

markers of culture are passed down from one generation to the next.

so real quick - what hebrew cultural markers (we have the tanakh and talmud for reference) - traditions, rituals, language, and values do we see present among the black diaspora and latinos (according to the hebrew israelite) today?

because i can give you west african cultural markers for each one of these things that survived despite the transatlantic slave trade.

if you and the hebrew israelites can't point to one single hebrew cultural marker, i will kindly ask again to stop with the bullshyt. this is what I meant when i said folks doubling down in ignorance.

THAT PART

 

[Kenny West]

Damn, so who all these folks?

These crests the legacy of the Moorish invasion of Spain. Keyword being invasion, implying that they not from there.

 

[tuckgod]

These crests the legacy of the Moorish invasion of Spain. Keyword being invasion, implying that they not from there.

The poster I responded to said that there were no black people in medieval Europe when there were in fact native dark skinned Brits and newer arrived Moors from North Africa.

The crests depicted all types of things, but one thing they depicted for sure is a Black presence in medieval Europe, and not merely in a slave status or even a low social status.

You also conviently ignored the 15th century tapestry, clearly depicting uncivilized, pale skinned people invading the castle of highly civilized Black people, who had shoes, tailored clothing, metal tipped arrows and lances, guarding the royal family wearing golden crowns and jewels, at a time when the whites were barefoot and using clubs as weapons, in what we call Germany today. Very far from Spain in 2025, whole different world in the 1400s.

 

[Luke Cage]

"Race" is based on "Phenotype" Appearance.

ALL of the original "Eurasians" had "Tropical" features including Craniofacially.

They "Looked Black".

And had "Black Skintones" but were genetically "Eurasians" like Andamanese, Papua New Guineans etc...

They were "Black Europeans"

I suspect the original people probably just look like humanity if we all mixed today.
But some people seem to not understand the difference between black/african and dark skin. And try to claim anybody with dark skin as black.
You can be black af and not be black

 

[Dzali OG]

Out of Africa is based on Europeans mission to prove their superiority by placing themselves at the top of the human evolutionary scale.

These were the same generation and nationality of scientists that came up with all of our current psychological practices, so they knew full well the subconscious effect this would have on their race and the rest of humanity, creating a mental caste system that we all still follow today without giving it any thought.

Ape -> Black -> Brown -> Yellow -> White

It was brilliant.

They have no way of proving that humanity started in Africa, that’s just where they’ve done most of their digging to prove their theory.

For all anyone knows, the earliest human bones are under a mile of ice in Antarctica, under the ocean in the South Pacific, or in a super remote part of the Amazon rain forest.

There’s already alternate theories with early human fossil finds in the Middle East and Asia but they would break the narrative and spell if highly publicized.

Naw...see this that slope that too many black people have slipped into pseudology with.

How is OOA beneficial to Europeans? Because it is basically saying blacks and whites ate the same thing since we can all breed together. I'd think they would more want to prove we are all separate species?

Too many nikkas go into this coping mechanism where they basically have the stance that Europeans didn't conquer the world with better technology and weaponry as a result of science. No...cacs conquered the world by lying and concealing real history...which of we find out the real stuff we'll somehow get free.

We gotta stop the "disagree with everything cacs say" in the name of being pro black.

 

[Ty Daniels]

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I suspect the original people probably just look like humanity if we all mixed today.
But some people seem to not understand the difference between black/african and dark skin. And try to claim anybody with dark skin as black.
You can be black af and not be black

NO the Original people had African "Tropical" Cranio-Facial traits, and Skeletal Limb Proportions, and retained them for tens of thousands of years.

What I am saying is not based upon what "I Want To Be" or "What I think", but based upon the ACTUAL data.

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Core “African Facial” Traits of Early AMH​

These traits were common among early African AMH like those from Omo, Herto, Jebel Irhoud, Grimaldi, and Nubian Nile Valley specimens.

Craniofacial Traits:​

Trait	Description
Broad nasal aperture	Wide nasal opening (often linked to warm/humid climate adaptation)
Low nasal bridge	A flatter ridge at the top of the nose
Pronounced prognathism	Forward projection of the mid-face and/or lower jaw
Large alveolar prognathism	Protruding dental area around the mouth
Full lips	Larger, fleshy lip structure
Wide interorbital distance	Large spacing between the eyes
High cheekbones	Prominent, outward-facing zygomatic bones
Long, narrow skulls (dolichocephalic)	Skull longer front to back, often paired with facial breadth
Receding chin or chinless (in some early AMH)	Seen in very early forms like Herto or Jebel Irhoud specimens
Curly to tightly coiled hair (inferred from genetics and impressions)	Associated with warm-climate adaptation

Postcranial (Body) Traits Associated with “Tropical Adaptation” (Also Seen in Africoid Populations)​

Trait	Description
Long limbs (especially tibia/femur ratios)	Adaptation for heat dissipation (Allen’s rule)
Short trunk/torso	Helps reduce heat retention in hot climates
Gracile (slender) skeleton	Lightweight frame compared to archaic hominins
Narrow pelvis	A hallmark of modern human mobility vs. archaic humans

Were These Traits Universal in Early AMH?​

Yes — the earliest modern humans in Eurasia (e.g., Levant, India, even southern Russia) retained many of these traits well into the Upper Paleolithic (~40,000–10,000 BCE). This is why ancient skeletal remains from Europe and Asia often resemble African populations more than modern Eurasian groups.

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People are going back in forth in here like any of this shyt is up for "Debate", it is not.

 

[Luke Cage]

No the Original people had African "Tropical" Cranio-Facial traits, and Skeletal Limb Proportions, and retained them for tens of thousands of years.

What I am saying is not based upon what "I Want To Be" or "What I think", but based upon the ACTUAL data.

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Core “African Facial” Traits of Early AMH​

These traits were common among early African AMH like those from Omo, Herto, Jebel Irhoud, Grimaldi, and Nubian Nile Valley specimens.

Craniofacial Traits:​

Trait	Description
Broad nasal aperture	Wide nasal opening (often linked to warm/humid climate adaptation)
Low nasal bridge	A flatter ridge at the top of the nose
Pronounced prognathism	Forward projection of the mid-face and/or lower jaw
Large alveolar prognathism	Protruding dental area around the mouth
Full lips	Larger, fleshy lip structure
Wide interorbital distance	Large spacing between the eyes
High cheekbones	Prominent, outward-facing zygomatic bones
Long, narrow skulls (dolichocephalic)	Skull longer front to back, often paired with facial breadth
Receding chin or chinless (in some early AMH)	Seen in very early forms like Herto or Jebel Irhoud specimens
Curly to tightly coiled hair (inferred from genetics and impressions)	Associated with warm-climate adaptation

Postcranial (Body) Traits Associated with “Tropical Adaptation” (Also Seen in Africoid Populations)​

Trait	Description
Long limbs (especially tibia/femur ratios)	Adaptation for heat dissipation (Allen’s rule)
Short trunk/torso	Helps reduce heat retention in hot climates
Gracile (slender) skeleton	Lightweight frame compared to archaic hominins
Narrow pelvis	A hallmark of modern human mobility vs. archaic humans

Were These Traits Universal in Early AMH?​

Yes — the earliest modern humans in Eurasia (e.g., Levant, India, even southern Russia) retained many of these traits well into the Upper Paleolithic (~40,000–10,000 BCE). This is why ancient skeletal remains from Europe and Asia often resemble African populations more than modern Eurasian groups.

I think this is actually genetically impossible due to the fact their are a finite amout of genetic variations.
I believe i read somewhere that once you go back enough generations, you are technically no longer even related even if you spawn from that direct blood line.
The amount of DNA your share with your ancestors decreases with each generation. you share 7% of dna with your 6th Great Grandparent for example.

If we go back 50 thousand years, they literally have no genetic connection with modern descendants. And could have had any appearance for all we know.
They might resemble modern africans but they aren't really yet at that point. They were just people with dark skin. They might've all looked like super dark skinned samoans for all we know.
Not really saying they weren't african. Just saying if they came back to life today. It would be easy for us to distinguish them for everybody else including africans today.

 

[Ironman]

Didnt he mess with kids?

They used to test their weapons on the natuve kids