Ok 😒 this “everyone in history that was important was secretly black” stuff got to stop we looking crazy “Columbas was a black moor” 😒

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The Olmecs were not Africans, they were native to the land.

The equator goes through South America just like it does Africa.

The blacks of South America were the first people the Sephardic Jews went to war with, and enslaved once they took over the Moors trading routes, and began shipping them throughout the Caribbean and Americas.


How many Blacks from South America do you actually personally know?

And of what populations do you speak, meaning the country of origin?

Btw, the first enslaved Africans were from the Dominican, Puerto Rico and Cuba.



Manuscript No. 007

Date: 1503, March 29. Zaragoza, Spain Theme: Enslaved Blacks began to resist slavery practically since they arrived in La Española, by running away Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles--Archivo General de Indias, INDIFERENTE,418 L.1, 100R- 102V

Manuscript No. 007 | First Blacks in the Americas

Manuscript No. 008

Date: 1504, February 15. Medina del Campo, Spain Theme: Order by the Catholic Kings refusing to allow the free importation of slaves into La Española Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles, Archivo General de Indias,INDIFERENTE,418,L.1 – ImĂĄgenes NĂșm: 249/378, 250/

Manuscript No. 008 | First Blacks in the Americas

Manuscript No. 009 Date: 1505, September 15. Segovia, Spain Theme: Order from the Spanish Crown to La Española’s Governor NicolĂĄs de Ovando, agreeing to send more Black slaves and mandating the enslaved Blacks available in the colony to be put to work in the gold mines Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles, Archivo General de Indias, INDIFERENTE, 418, L.1, F.180V-181V—1—Imagen NĂșm:

Manuscript No. 009 | First Blacks in the Americas

Manuscript No. 009

Date: 1505, September 15. Segovia, Spain Theme: Order from the Spanish Crown to La Española’s Governor NicolĂĄs de Ovando, agreeing to send more Black slaves and mandating the enslaved Blacks available in the colony to be put to work in the gold mines Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles, Archivo General de Indias, INDIFERENTE, 418, L.1, F.180V-181V—1—Imagen NĂșm:

Manuscript No. 009 | First Blacks in the Americas

"The Christianized Blacks mentioned in the sixteenth-century documents issued in Spain, La Española and the rest of the Spanish empire were known as ladinos, and the term referred in general to the Blacks who were familiar in general with the religion, cultures, and languages of Castile or Portugal (either because of having been born and raised in those territories or due to long contact with or exposure to these cultures)."

"Conversely those Blacks with no familiarity with the Iberian cultures and languages, typically those brought straight from Africa, were called bozales.

As indicated here, during these first years of the colonization, the Spanish Crown tried to limit the arrival of Blacks into the Americas to ladinos, but the restriction lasted only a short time."

"From January 1502 there is evidence of at least one enslaved Black man being sent from Seville to La Española together with two other men, presumably free, to work in the extraction of gold under the orders of a fourth individual who was himself under a contract as a worker for a merchant of Seville.[1] Moreover on September 12th 1502, the Spanish monarchs authorized at least two royal court’s employees to organize a fleet to take provisions to the settlers established in La Española, explicitly allowing the organizers of the expedition to include ‘as many Blacks as they wanted,’ in what seems a clear reference to slaves.[2] According to Carlos Esteban Deive it is not known whether there was actually any shipment of enslaved Blacks made under the permit, but this stands as the first recorded royal license issued to import slaves into La Española."

"By late 1502 or early 1503 there was in La Española a large enough number of enslaved Blacks to begin worrying Governor Ovando about the incapacity of the colonists to prevent at least some slaves from escaping captivity. In response, Ovando requested to the Crown that no more Blacks be brought to La Española “because those that existed there had escaped.” (see Manuscript No. 007). The monarchs seem to have heeded the request immediately, since there is a response from them, in the form of a royal order of March 29, 1503 in which they promised to stop the sending of enslaved Blacks (“on this we will order to proceed as you say”)[4] and for a while after the 1503 royal promise to stop the importing of Black slaves into La Española there seems to have been no more sending of Blacks for over a year and a half. In February of 1504 the Crown reiterated the prohibition.[5] And still by October 1504 there were no new authorizations given for the transferring of Black slaves (“esclavos”) to La Española that we know of, though there was at least one case authorizing the sending of enslaved whites (“esclavos blancos”) on an expedition lead by Alonso de Ojeda.[6] (see Manuscript No. 008)."

Yet by the end of 1504 and in the following year, things changed. Not only had enslaved Blacks begun to be shipped to La Española again, but some of them were bozales.[7] In January of 1505 a carabela reportedly left from to Hispaniola carrying 16 Black slaves assigned to work in the colony’s mines.[8] Also governor Ovando seems to have changed his mind about importing Blacks. In September he was referred to in a Crown document as having requested the sending of “more Black slaves” to work the local gold mines of La Española.[9] (see Manuscript No. 009). He is said to have actually requested to the King that he send 20 more slaves.[10] The Crown responded positively to the request on September 15th, deciding to send a total of one hundred enslaved Blacks. Also in their response they explicitly confirmed that at the time there were already a number of Black slaves in the colony, by referring to them as “those that are there.” [11] In what seems an evident eagerness for obtaining more gold from the island, the Crown flatly ordered the governor to put those enslaved Blacks to work in the mines, and even offering them freedom as their reward if they worked to the Crown’s satisfaction for an undetermined number of years, a way, according to Deive, to try to prevent them from fleeing.[12] (see Manuscript No. 009).

"It is not clear whether the hundred slaves ever arrived in La Española, but it seems that at least between January and September of 1505 the 20 slaves requested by Ovando may have been received in the colony. In a communications of September 15 and 16, 1505 the King, in addressing the Casa de la ContrataciĂłn indicated that Ovando had reported receiving 17 ‘Black slaves’ from the Casa (possibly the same group of slaves shipped in January of that year and referred to in the paragraph above) and was already requesting more.[13] In the letter the king reiterated his desire to have 100 slaves sent to the colony so that “all these gather gold for me.” [14] (see Manuscript No. 009). These slaves are supposed to have been from the Guinee region and to have been bought in Lisbon. [15] If that was the case, as Deive says, then it is likely that those slaves could have been bozales. Three more slaves had been supposedly sent to Ovando, shipped on July 16, 1505. And these would have completed the 20 requested. [16]"

(First Blacks in the Americas - Dominican Studies Institute, The City College of New York, North Academic Center (NAC))
 

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If a DNA test is done, it shows either a sex based stream as admixture, a genetic drift or bottleneck occurrence, which also can be / is sex based admixture.



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"Blacks were a significant minority of the Cherokee Nation throughout the nineteenth century, first as slaves and later as freedmen. An 1830s census shows that the Cherokee Nation at that time consisted of: 13,536 Indians; 147 intermarried white males; 73 intermarried white females; and 1,277 slaves. In 1860 there were approximately 23,000 Cherokees and 2,500 blacks in the Cherokee Territory. And according to the United States Census of 1890 the total population of the Cherokee Nation was 56,309, including 5,127 persons of Negro descent."


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These people think the indigenous peoples of America just mysteriously have African phenotype...with no connection to Africa! They are scientifically illiterate!
 

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If a DNA test is done, it shows either a sex based stream as admixture, a genetic drift or bottleneck occurrence.



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"Blacks were a significant minority of the Cherokee Nation throughout the nineteenth century, first as slaves and later as freedmen. An 1830s census shows that the Cherokee Nation at that time consisted of: 13,536 Indians; 147 intermarried white males; 73 intermarried white females; and 1,277 slaves. In 1860 there were approximately 23,000 Cherokees and 2,500 blacks in the Cherokee Territory. And according to the United States Census of 1890 the total population of the Cherokee Nation was 56,309, including 5,127 persons of Negro descent."


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You keep talking about some black freedmen and Cherokee Nation.

That’s a whole different group of people than what we’re discussing, tether.

We did not have any Cherokee around here, this is Powhatan land.

Cherokee wasn’t a real tribe or Nation originally, it just meant people of a different tongue.

It’s a cracker creation.

They have no way of testing the DNA of Indigenous Tribes because there is no database.

They test against South American Indians to see if you have Native DNA, as most tribes don’t submit to DNA testing.


 

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The Olmecs were not Africans, they were native to the land.

The equator goes through South America just like it does Africa.

The blacks of South America were the first people the Sephardic Jews went to war with, and enslaved once they took over the Moors trading routes, and began shipping them throughout the Caribbean and Americas.



If the olmecs were native to the land (which i don't believe there's any accepted research showing this)...how and why would their phenotype be so similar to africans that people can't tell the difference?
 

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How many Blacks from South America do you actually personally know?

And of what populations do you speak, meaning the country of origin?

Btw, the first enslaved Africans were from the Dominican, Puerto Rico and Cuba.
What
 

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If the olmecs were native to the land (which i don't believe there's any accepted research showing this)...how and why would their phenotype be so similar to africans that people can't tell the difference?
Same way all other black people of the world do, like South Asians, Austroloids, Fiji Islanders, etc, all the places on the equator, tether.
 

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How many Blacks from South America do you actually personally know?

And of what populations do you speak, meaning the country of origin?

Btw, the first enslaved Africans were from the Dominican, Puerto Rico and Cuba.



Manuscript No. 007

Date: 1503, March 29. Zaragoza, Spain Theme: Enslaved Blacks began to resist slavery practically since they arrived in La Española, by running away Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles--Archivo General de Indias, INDIFERENTE,418 L.1, 100R- 102V

Manuscript No. 007 | First Blacks in the Americas

Manuscript No. 008

Date: 1504, February 15. Medina del Campo, Spain Theme: Order by the Catholic Kings refusing to allow the free importation of slaves into La Española Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles, Archivo General de Indias,INDIFERENTE,418,L.1 – ImĂĄgenes NĂșm: 249/378, 250/

Manuscript No. 008 | First Blacks in the Americas

Manuscript No. 009 Date: 1505, September 15. Segovia, Spain Theme: Order from the Spanish Crown to La Española’s Governor NicolĂĄs de Ovando, agreeing to send more Black slaves and mandating the enslaved Blacks available in the colony to be put to work in the gold mines Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles, Archivo General de Indias, INDIFERENTE, 418, L.1, F.180V-181V—1—Imagen NĂșm:

Manuscript No. 009 | First Blacks in the Americas

Manuscript No. 009

Date: 1505, September 15. Segovia, Spain Theme: Order from the Spanish Crown to La Española’s Governor NicolĂĄs de Ovando, agreeing to send more Black slaves and mandating the enslaved Blacks available in the colony to be put to work in the gold mines Source: PARES, Portal de Archivos Españoles, Archivo General de Indias, INDIFERENTE, 418, L.1, F.180V-181V—1—Imagen NĂșm:

Manuscript No. 009 | First Blacks in the Americas

"The Christianized Blacks mentioned in the sixteenth-century documents issued in Spain, La Española and the rest of the Spanish empire were known as ladinos, and the term referred in general to the Blacks who were familiar in general with the religion, cultures, and languages of Castile or Portugal (either because of having been born and raised in those territories or due to long contact with or exposure to these cultures)."

"Conversely those Blacks with no familiarity with the Iberian cultures and languages, typically those brought straight from Africa, were called bozales.

As indicated here, during these first years of the colonization, the Spanish Crown tried to limit the arrival of Blacks into the Americas to ladinos, but the restriction lasted only a short time."

"From January 1502 there is evidence of at least one enslaved Black man being sent from Seville to La Española together with two other men, presumably free, to work in the extraction of gold under the orders of a fourth individual who was himself under a contract as a worker for a merchant of Seville.[1] Moreover on September 12th 1502, the Spanish monarchs authorized at least two royal court’s employees to organize a fleet to take provisions to the settlers established in La Española, explicitly allowing the organizers of the expedition to include ‘as many Blacks as they wanted,’ in what seems a clear reference to slaves.[2] According to Carlos Esteban Deive it is not known whether there was actually any shipment of enslaved Blacks made under the permit, but this stands as the first recorded royal license issued to import slaves into La Española."

"By late 1502 or early 1503 there was in La Española a large enough number of enslaved Blacks to begin worrying Governor Ovando about the incapacity of the colonists to prevent at least some slaves from escaping captivity. In response, Ovando requested to the Crown that no more Blacks be brought to La Española “because those that existed there had escaped.” (see Manuscript No. 007). The monarchs seem to have heeded the request immediately, since there is a response from them, in the form of a royal order of March 29, 1503 in which they promised to stop the sending of enslaved Blacks (“on this we will order to proceed as you say”)[4] and for a while after the 1503 royal promise to stop the importing of Black slaves into La Española there seems to have been no more sending of Blacks for over a year and a half. In February of 1504 the Crown reiterated the prohibition.[5] And still by October 1504 there were no new authorizations given for the transferring of Black slaves (“esclavos”) to La Española that we know of, though there was at least one case authorizing the sending of enslaved whites (“esclavos blancos”) on an expedition lead by Alonso de Ojeda.[6] (see Manuscript No. 008)."

Yet by the end of 1504 and in the following year, things changed. Not only had enslaved Blacks begun to be shipped to La Española again, but some of them were bozales.[7] In January of 1505 a carabela reportedly left from to Hispaniola carrying 16 Black slaves assigned to work in the colony’s mines.[8] Also governor Ovando seems to have changed his mind about importing Blacks. In September he was referred to in a Crown document as having requested the sending of “more Black slaves” to work the local gold mines of La Española.[9] (see Manuscript No. 009). He is said to have actually requested to the King that he send 20 more slaves.[10] The Crown responded positively to the request on September 15th, deciding to send a total of one hundred enslaved Blacks. Also in their response they explicitly confirmed that at the time there were already a number of Black slaves in the colony, by referring to them as “those that are there.” [11] In what seems an evident eagerness for obtaining more gold from the island, the Crown flatly ordered the governor to put those enslaved Blacks to work in the mines, and even offering them freedom as their reward if they worked to the Crown’s satisfaction for an undetermined number of years, a way, according to Deive, to try to prevent them from fleeing.[12] (see Manuscript No. 009).

"It is not clear whether the hundred slaves ever arrived in La Española, but it seems that at least between January and September of 1505 the 20 slaves requested by Ovando may have been received in the colony. In a communications of September 15 and 16, 1505 the King, in addressing the Casa de la ContrataciĂłn indicated that Ovando had reported receiving 17 ‘Black slaves’ from the Casa (possibly the same group of slaves shipped in January of that year and referred to in the paragraph above) and was already requesting more.[13] In the letter the king reiterated his desire to have 100 slaves sent to the colony so that “all these gather gold for me.” [14] (see Manuscript No. 009). These slaves are supposed to have been from the Guinee region and to have been bought in Lisbon. [15] If that was the case, as Deive says, then it is likely that those slaves could have been bozales. Three more slaves had been supposedly sent to Ovando, shipped on July 16, 1505. And these would have completed the 20 requested. [16]"

(First Blacks in the Americas - Dominican Studies Institute, The City College of New York, North Academic Center (NAC))

Those "black" people indigenous to South America are not like us. No one would mistake them box body, long backed, flat booty, people for us.

These lying abos need to stop!
 

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If a DNA test is done, it shows either a sex based stream as admixture, a genetic drift or bottleneck occurrence, which also can be / is sex based admixture.



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"Blacks were a significant minority of the Cherokee Nation throughout the nineteenth century, first as slaves and later as freedmen. An 1830s census shows that the Cherokee Nation at that time consisted of: 13,536 Indians; 147 intermarried white males; 73 intermarried white females; and 1,277 slaves. In 1860 there were approximately 23,000 Cherokees and 2,500 blacks in the Cherokee Territory. And according to the United States Census of 1890 the total population of the Cherokee Nation was 56,309, including 5,127 persons of Negro descent."


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Don't waste your time they (fake aboriginals) don't believe in DNA. They just use pictures of dark Indians and stories of Dark Indians to claim that's thats them and they were already here.
 

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Is that 1st video from that flaming pseudo Kuremio???? đŸ€Ł đŸ€Ł đŸ€Ł

Breh there is actual peer reviewed info available in 2025!
Read the book, it’s a primary source.

Why do you know these people by name.
 

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Those "black" people indigenous to South America are not like us. No one would mistake them box body, long backed, flat booty, people for us.

These lying abos need to stop!
You have a very tiny worldview, tiny tether.
 

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You keep talking about some black freedmen and Cherokee Nation.

That’s a whole different group of people than what we’re discussing, tether.

We did not have any Cherokee around here, this is Powhatan land.

Cherokee wasn’t a real tribe or Nation originally, it just meant people of a different tongue.

It’s a cracker creation.

They have no way of testing the DNA of Indigenous Tribes because there is no database.

They test against South American Indians to see if you have Native DNA, as most tribes don’t submit to DNA testing.




Fukk you mean they have no database for native americans? You're just saying anything now. You're repeating that about bullshyt, of which im familiar with all your points because I was on that about tip back in like 2006!

It's all bullshyt. Let it go!
 

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Same way all other black people of the world do, like South Asians, Austroloids, Fiji Islanders, etc, all the places on the equator, tether.

The black people of those places came from africa!

Any black person in America is technically a tether. We make up 14% of the population...we're barely hanging by a tether here!
 

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Fukk you mean they have no database for native americans? You're just saying anything now. You're repeating that about bullshyt, of which im familiar with all your points because I was on that about tip back in like 2006!

It's all bullshyt. Let it go!
I back up everything I say with proof, tether.

Click the video.

Maybe you’d prefer to hear it from these vessels instead.



 

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The black people of those places came from africa!

Any black person in America is technically a tether. We make up 14% of the population...we're barely hanging by a tether here!
Those people did not come from Africa, tether.

They are native to their lands and I’m pretty sure your beloved DNA even shows that they aren’t related.
 
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