OKC trades Serge Ibaka to Orlando...

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I hate when y'all do this. So many different variables come into play than posting numbers with no basis:snoop:

I think this is the stretch when they had some injuries with Evan & Obviously Frye got shipped

He was very ball dominant/free reign , can't expect the same production from him with KD& Russ
Not sure why you're getting upset or what players being injured /shipped have to do with someone's efficiency. You'd expect them to be less efficient actually. His usage will replace dions. About ~20%

Here's his other Stats last 40

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Yeah and he's very underrated defensively. He'd be a cheap replacement. Wonder how much he commands he just opted out

If his agent is worth a damn he should be able to get him at least 3 years 24 mil

These gm's are analytics crazy and the numbers suggest that you can give him significant small ball minutes
 

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payton
hezon
fournier
gordon
ibaka

enough space and shooters along with bigs that can defend the paint and perimeter. do you not understand small ball?:martin:
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At this point I don't trust Gordon or Ibaka offensively. You will always be a treadmill team if Evan is your #1 or 2
 

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Not sure why you're getting upset or what players being injured /shipped have to do with someone's efficiency. You'd expect them to be less efficient actually. His usage will replace dions. About ~20%

Here's his other Stats last 40

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What do you think his numbers will be this season?

His impact will be very minimal imo. He's just not an impactful player
 

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Where did Oladipo ever get you? I like him but he wasn't a fit with what you had and keeping him would mean moving Payton & Hezonja as well.


This means Gordon is your 3 defensively, and your 4 offensively because of how Ibaka is always outside. I think they make the playoffs as a result of more floor balance.

Oladipo is still young. And he's talented, something Orlando is severely lacking on the wings. Especially defensively.

I hate when I hear Gordon moves to the 3. He can't play the 3. He's a poor mans Blake. His 3 point range is below average, and to add to that, it's a set 3. He can't shoot of the dribble. He can't create his own shot. (Something Vic excelled at) He can't really do anything effectively by putting the ball on the floor. I wish he'd just concentrate on being a 4 and let it be.

Ibaka on the other hand said in his exit interview after the Thunder got knocked out of the playoffs that this was his most frustrating season because he couldn't just concentrate on being a post player. The thunder wanted him to expand his range and get out there and shoot threes. He didn't want to be more perimeter oriented, the team did. I don't think Orlando asks that of him. I think they want him on the block, having Vucci's back in the paint.

There better be more moves made.
 

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At this point I don't trust Gordon or Ibaka offensively. You will always be a treadmill team if Evan is your #1 or 2

i believe gordon can become a #1 option. he showed good potential last year and should only improve. no one is expecting a drastic improvement but even fighting for the 7th/8th seed with a young team like orlando would be good experience for them. it just comes down to gordon, hezon and payton's development. if they can take that next step in their game, add ibaka's defense and another perimeter veteran then they have something to work with. i still think they should trade vucevic for more pieces or picks.

Oladipo is still young. And he's talented, something Orlando is severely lacking on the wings. Especially defensively.

I hate when I hear Gordon moves to the 3. He can't play the 3. He's a poor mans Blake. His 3 point range is below average, and to add to that, it's a set 3. He can't shoot of the dribble. He can't create his own shot. (Something Vic excelled at) He can't really do anything effectively by putting the ball on the floor. I wish he'd just concentrate on being a 4 and let it be.

Ibaka on the other hand said in his exit interview after the Thunder got knocked out of the playoffs that this was his most frustrating season because he couldn't just concentrate on being a post player. The thunder wanted him to expand his range and get out there and shoot threes. He didn't want to be more perimeter oriented, the team did. I don't think Orlando asks that of him. I think they want him on the block, having Vucci's back in the paint.

There better be more moves made.

oladipo was far from the problem so that's why this trade confuses me.

what do you think of vucevic? and do you think gordon is a player they should build around?
 

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Oladipo is still young. And he's talented, something Orlando is severely lacking on the wings. Especially defensively.

I hate when I hear Gordon moves to the 3. He can't play the 3. He's a poor mans Blake. His 3 point range is below average, and to add to that, it's a set 3. He can't shoot of the dribble. He can't create his own shot. (Something Vic excelled at) He can't really do anything effectively by putting the ball on the floor. I wish he'd just concentrate on being a 4 and let it be.

Ibaka on the other hand said in his exit interview after the Thunder got knocked out of the playoffs that this was his most frustrating season because he couldn't just concentrate on being a post player. The thunder wanted him to expand his range and get out there and shoot threes. He didn't want to be more perimeter oriented, the team did. I don't think Orlando asks that of him. I think they want him on the block, having Vucci's back in the paint.

There better be more moves made.

Hezonja and Fournier are young too, and Hezonja definitely needs more playing time.

Gordon isn't going to be playing the 3 though, only defending it, offensively he will still be right around the rim where he belongs. Look at all the PF's you've had over the years, they are clearly going to use Ibaka for floor spacing purposes on offense, which leaves room for Gordon to operate with. There's nothing that stops Gordon from basically playing PF on offense, that's how the Thunder were using Roberson, crashing the rim while Ibaka was outside. They aren't trading for Ibaka to give him a ton of post touches, he'll be used the same, maybe a couple post touches here and there but he's predominately a shooter now.


I think this move makes them a playoff team, there's more floor balance and they finally get some defensive help for Vucci, and even if Ibaka has taken a step back he's still better defensively than anything you could have gotten in FA outside of the Al Horford hail mary hope.
 
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