Old heads, is it true Reasonable Doubt...
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ppl listened to it.. aint no nikka was a big hit but ppl mostly knew it from the nutty professor soundtrack so not much ppl copped reasonable doubt.. I knew a few ppl who had it but it wasn't some widely acclaimed album that everyone talked about.. certainly wasn't a classic.. honestly never heard it called classic until jay-z re-released it in 1999 and put out ads in The Source saying "re-releasing the classic album Reasonable Doubt".. 
... and then once The Source solidified it among other classics in their 150th issue it is now blasphemous to call it anything but a classic.. 
... and then once The Source solidified it among other classics in their 150th issue it is now blasphemous to call it anything but a classic.. 
LandryFieldsDad
All Star
the best part of this thread is a five or six year old The Rhyme King in 96 buying albums and not being impressed with Jay-z's lyricism at the time.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
are you special?
you act like youre telling me something. of course I know jay had 4 singles. I was the one that listed the muthasuckas hin here. whats your point weirdo? 3 of them were virtually rap city singles. that's respectable standard promotion at best for back then. you sure you were around? cuz it never sounds like it in any thread that you post in. you claim to be a senior in '96 but you always post like you were a senior in 2012 or some chit.
and clearly I knew more about rap at 11 years old than you do now while youre supposedly 32-33(lol. you post like youre 12), so I wouldn't try playing the age card if I were you.
Who you wit was on volume one even tho it dropped on a sdtk. WYW and IBG got Jay some looks that led more people to check for him with vol 1 coming up, those songs didn't make people move backward and cop RD. Same thing with a lot of these mixtape rappers who drop a first album that's a dud, follow up with mixtapes & appearances, then drop an album, the hype is pro-active, not retroactive.
By the end of '96 & top of 97, if you didn't really know jay, it wasn't some huge abomination, but mid 97 on, then, unless you were 10 and under, i'd be like
volume 1 wasn't coming up tho.
IBG dropped at the beginning of the year. WYW dropped not long after.
meanwhile, volume 1 dropped at the end of the year. and WYW2 is whats featured on the album. different version.
look, all im saying is I cant see how anyone who was remotely into hip-hop, even from just a commercial aspect, didn't know who jay-z was before volume 1. I just don't see how that's possible. that's 3 un-avoidable singles.
West Coast Avenger
West Coastin & Smokin
now you just sound like a hurt emotional fakkit cause I made you look stupid in this thread......that's ok son.......next time dont speak on shyt you dont know nothing about.......again, LOL @ at being 11 years old in '96 trying to relive the past that you didnt even know about.........
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
people are confusing jay's campaign for something more than it is.
yall say that he campaigned for it to be his illmatic in later years. that may be true. but being a classic and being illmatic are 2 different things.
it always got the classic treatment. it was considered a classic long before jay started whining. but on the flipside, nobody ever held it in that illmatic regard. now if you mean that it being mentioned in the same breath as illmatic is some new chit, then I agree.
but saying it wasn't a classic until the blueprint era and all that...........
lol. that's true.
I guess this is how it comes back to bit jay in the ass.
im not getting emotional about anything. youre the one who just made an entire post that has nothing to do with the topic. not me.
and i was just pointing out the irony and ridiculous statements of your posts. as well as you still deflecting away and lying about ur age.
and yes, I was about to start 7th grade when RD dropped and was on the east coast and ran the streets. plus we lived and breathed hip-hop in our batch. again, you wouldn't understand.
yall say that he campaigned for it to be his illmatic in later years. that may be true. but being a classic and being illmatic are 2 different things.
it always got the classic treatment. it was considered a classic long before jay started whining. but on the flipside, nobody ever held it in that illmatic regard. now if you mean that it being mentioned in the same breath as illmatic is some new chit, then I agree.
but saying it wasn't a classic until the blueprint era and all that...........
thats what Jay Z and his fans do
lol. that's true.
I guess this is how it comes back to bit jay in the ass.
now you just sound like a hurt emotional fakkit cause I made you look stupid in this thread......that's ok I son.......next time dont speak on shyt you dont know nothing about.......again, LOL @ at being 11 years old in '96 trying to relive the past that you didnt even know about..........................
im not getting emotional about anything. youre the one who just made an entire post that has nothing to do with the topic. not me.
and i was just pointing out the irony and ridiculous statements of your posts. as well as you still deflecting away and lying about ur age.
and yes, I was about to start 7th grade when RD dropped and was on the east coast and ran the streets. plus we lived and breathed hip-hop in our batch. again, you wouldn't understand.
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I trained Sheng Long and Shonuff
I'm a Brooklyn nikka, but whatever happened in 96 is totally irrelevant to me. All I know is when I listen to Reasonable Doubt I'm like 
That album, along with Doggystyle, It's Dark and Hell is Hot, and Illmatic are timeless to me. fukking classics b
That album, along with Doggystyle, It's Dark and Hell is Hot, and Illmatic are timeless to me. fukking classics b
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Illmatic and Reasonable Doubt were both classics stop it nikkas 
Y'all talking about sales but Nas was underground, he wasn't making commercial singles and Jay was independent and had a little buzz from "Ain't No nikka". Sonically both albums were amazing, and both received critical acclaim.
MATW did get 4 Mics though.
Y'all talking about sales but Nas was underground, he wasn't making commercial singles and Jay was independent and had a little buzz from "Ain't No nikka". Sonically both albums were amazing, and both received critical acclaim.
The reason The Source didn't rate it is because the label didn't send them the tape before the release that's how it works.
MATW did get 4 Mics though.
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Jay stans admitted Pac the goat droppin a single line with jay z name helped his careerRD debuted like 27th on the billboard charts... If that doesn't say nikkas wasn't checking for the album back then IDK what will.
I'm pretty sure Jay was likeat the free promotion Pac give him on 7 day theory.
Keep in Mind Nas had the number 1 for like a month and Pac sold 5 milli in a matter of months
he didnt really start getting play out here a bit til i know what girls like.
people forget how divided shyt was back then. regardless of him being on the nutty professor soundtrack. no social media back then. Its still my fav album of 96. and its classic with a capital C
shyt you got people in this day and age who just started catching up on Breaking Bad as it was ending. does that mean its not a great show?
Only rap fans are so close minded.
people forget how divided shyt was back then. regardless of him being on the nutty professor soundtrack. no social media back then. Its still my fav album of 96. and its classic with a capital C
shyt you got people in this day and age who just started catching up on Breaking Bad as it was ending. does that mean its not a great show?
Only rap fans are so close minded.
Teko
All Star
Its always amusing to see the same clowns who claim that everyone was checking for illmatic in the other thread also turn around and say no one was checking out for RD.
Fact is RD on an independent label sold a lot more than Illmatic on a major label. The only major acclaim that Illmatic got was from a magazine (1 journalist writes the fukking review) and fewer people were checking for it - numbers don't lie. People only gave a fukk about Nas on his second album thanks to the pop remake of Rule the world and Lauryn Hill on the hook.
Fact is RD on an independent label sold a lot more than Illmatic on a major label. The only major acclaim that Illmatic got was from a magazine (1 journalist writes the fukking review) and fewer people were checking for it - numbers don't lie. People only gave a fukk about Nas on his second album thanks to the pop remake of Rule the world and Lauryn Hill on the hook.
ltheghost
Payin Debts.... N40
Wasn't poppin in 96? I keep seein nikkas sayin that no one was checkin for Hov and nikkas thought it was trash until Jay himself started sayin that it was classic later on. I was born in 95 so it doesn't sound right to me that the GOAT was considered wack
So is that true or is the booth just bullshyttin?
You are kinda on point. When it came out no one was checking for it. There were a lot of Mafiso rapper back then and he was stuck in the mold and it was difficult for anyone in NY to get from underneath Bad Boy's shadow at that time. You would be hard pressed to find someone who went and bought Reasonable Doubt the first day it came out.
ltheghost
Payin Debts.... N40
Pretty much...sadly.