Old heads, is it true Reasonable Doubt...

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The BUMS were very exclusive to a niche, college radio type crowd. i bought that album and hated it. traded it. years later bought it again. now i like it.


i was a big gansta rap fan but getting the casual, gem star in the mouth, 40 below tims wearing chew stick havin' dude to appreciate a Spice 1 album was a chore. But it was waaaaaay easier than selling them an RBL Posse or Daytona Family record. lol.
That BUMS album was nice. I'm surprised you didn't like that from jump. And RBL was huge in the Bay in 1994. Surprised they were even on your radar.
 

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I live in NY and all I heard summer of 96 was It Was Written. I remember like one person that use to bump reasonable doubt.
 

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Ain't no nikka, was poppin a bit down here in DC, Can't knock the hustle got some love, but that album wasn't major. But people definitely knew who Jay was after that album.
 

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Man stop. People were saying Jay was on BIGs ass when big was alive and well. Again, I was there.
the nikkas in the barber shop around your way dont speak for everybody. Maybe you forgot exactly how fukkin iconic Big was at the time son. Remember the 112 "Only You" joint, "Get Money" remix, both "One More Chance" remixes, "Flava in ya Ear", that Little Shawn joint "Dom Perignon", "B Side" etc. Jigga was respected as being extremely talented and charismatic, but i aint hear 1 thun,kicko,or gawd saying he was fukkin with Frank White
 
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I think Jay-Z summed it up best on "Hard Knock Life":

"I gave you prophecy on my first joint, and you all lamed out
didn't really appreciate it till the second one came out"



When RD was released, it was viewed as an excellent album, but not necessarily an instant classic or hip-hop landmark.

But it got enough respect to put Jay-Z in the "best MC" conversation. XXL crowned Jay-Z the best MC alive in it's first issue (released in the summer of 1997, before Vol. 1 came out)


I think after Jay-Z blew up, people went back and gave it some more consideration, and it achieved the status it deserved all along.
 

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well duh. that's exactly why it caught hell. and it isn't that damn good either. it's a solid 3.5...4 if you're a stan. but all this classic talk surrounding that album is utter bullshyt. it's almost absurd.
IWW is no less than 4.5 to me. I loved it then and I love it now. It did catch a lot of flack for all the reasons stated.
 

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Huge single with it girl Lauren and built on the hype if Illmatic. The biggie blueprint made it readily digestible to casual rap fans.


This isn't rocket science.
The lyrics were there though. And the production wasn't any more sellout than Ready To Die.
 

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UNLIKE JAY THOUGH, NAS NEVER WENT ON A CAMPAIGN TO IMPROVE THE ALBUM'S STANDINGS. THE IWW ALBUM DID THAT ON ITS OWN. QUALITY EVENTUALLY SHONE THROUGH!!!!!
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This is true - any change in the perception of IWW is natural.
 

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Who said IWW was a classic? Even though some cats think it's nas best album, I think it was one of the many dope albums of 96 along with RD.
I consider it a classic. But it's not a universal classic. To me, I can't say RD is better than IWW or vice versa.
 
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