Old heads, is it true the '98 DMX is what killed the shiny suit era & forced Hov to change his sound?

[satam55]

Spin-off from this thread: https://www.thecoli.com/threads/old...-as-05-jeezy-15-future-or-03-50-cent.1089651/




That's what Irv Gotti claims in this Complex interview clips from 2015:

The Murder Inc head honcho recalls telling Lyor Cohen to shut up during Def Jam staff meetings.

Gotti recalls masterminding the Hard Knock Life tour.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Yeah ji like, Get At Me Dog was a total tone switch from the bullshyt Diddy was putting out and X was really the closest thing to that thug poet energy that Pac had.

 

[Ziggiy]

Shiny Suit era had been raked through the coals by 98. Puffy squeezed every bit of relevance he could out of that time period. DMX was seen as a welcome alternative and someone who kept it “real” with no filters or fakeness.


nikkas was still getting fly and Jiggy. But there needed to be a bit more balance. Its why Nas had both Puff AND X on I am in 99. Jay had X AND Ja Rule/Jermaine Dupri on Vol 2. And so on and so forth.

RIP to DMX. Such a talented dude. Mixed that thug aesthetic with genuine charisma and real talent. The man was like the Mick Jagger of rap.

 

[Collateral]

RIP Gotti, always been a fantastic storyteller

Jay always been a hater lol, and he just didn’t like X but a capitalist will break bread with anybody.

The had suits and choreographed dancing in the Can I Get A music video, just no shiny suits.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

I remember hearing about X back in 97 in NY on Mixtapes wit guys like,Kasino,Ma$e,Mic G & The Lox when Puff was at his Apex....didn't think he would be The Man to Change The Game as Heavy as he did and even had some of my Friend Group back Home in So Cal rocking it along wit No Limit....we just needed that Pac fill in and they covered that for a good time

 

[Trips]

Man DMX was without peer from like 98-00 just killing the game. There were other greats out there and good albums don't get me wrong. But, X was something different.

 

[doggy]

Calling us old heads now wow. Yeah X did that

@Sccit

 

[Sccit]

Calling us old heads now wow. Yeah X did that

@Sccit

NAAH .. PUFF WAS STILL DOIN HIS THING WHILE DMX WAS EATIN .... ID SAY IT WAS THE 1999 WEST COAST RESURGENCE WIT DRE, SNOOP, EASTSIDAZ, XZIBIT ETC THAT ENDED SHINEY SUIT.

 

[Cladyclad]

The most overblown talking point ever

 

[PHamm]

Yes. Jay was a follower; he didn't set trends

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Yes

DMX brought grimy back…. Along with Onyx and a few others but yes

 

[BlackDiBiase]

Nothing forced Hov to change his sound. He is Alex Mack a known wave hopper transformer clout chaser!!

 

[the cac mamba]

Yes. Jay was a follower; he didn't set trends

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

When linkin park was hot he made an album with them... same with a known pedophile.. twice... hov only cares about relevance not art

 

[ajnapoleon]

I thought Jay was a afterthought back then


Why does his name come up all the time


What about the other MC’s that was clearly better


I dont get why this dude name keep coming up when no one listens to him


It’s strange