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One post above mine :heh:
Again it’s nikkas who are outright talking about Fiz and dissing him through subliminal agenda laden post.

I was merely responding to an ongoing discussion.

Me and @seemorecizzy don’t give a fukk about Fizdale like that. We just see through the bullshyt and know that while he may not be a great coach he was dealt a poor hand by the front office and firing him this season was pointless and makes us look bad throughout the league.
 

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that's always your go to:yeshrug:
what im sayin is rather simple but for some reason you have trouble understanding
my energy has remained da same all season
same energy i had for fizz, is the same energy i have for miller.

the energy you currently have for miller, (blame management) wasnt the energy you for fizz. you were shyttin on him and blaming him constantly. you went as far as blaming him for our poor free throw shooting:russ:

just take the l and keep it moving. the problem in here is, people cant admit when they are wrong. you troll and ride agendas to the end.
How long was Fizdale coach before I started shytting on him?

And your posting STAYS disingenuous. But to correct you, I never said poor free throw shooting was his fault. I said I could make the argument that it is. Unlike you and your boy iso, I try to make my clear positions clear. Fiz was terrible. Mike Miller is better. That's as far as any of my posts have really gone. Mike Miller had a very low bar and all I've done is point out that he's reached that low bar. That doesn't make him the greatest coach. He hasn't made all the right decisions. I've said since the game won that none of these early games in his tenure mean anything. I've said since game one that he shouldn't be judged until at least his 22nd game as Knicks head coach. And I've said anything that I post on him now, is a critique of his coaching skills as the games go on. Don't presume to know how I do or don't feel about Mike Miller. You'll soon see them when I post them here.
 
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Exactly ,my point. Payton has always been a lozy shooter. He's scrappy on defense and plays hard but he's really more so of a specialist or backup. But yall already got frank.


Teague on the other hand energetic as fukk. Can shoot the lights out and can distribute the ball. Plus it allows a lineup of

1-teague - shooter
2- frank- defender
3- barret- all around
4- Morris - shooter
5- Mitch- defender

Now you have spacing. Plus if you dont like teague he's a free agent next year.

All I know DSJ isn't working out for yall he's regressed something serious.

I think he just needs a new start somewhere else or just some time to reset and get his mind right.

NY right just isnt for him.
Aye breh you gon give me them tips on LA or what ?:dwillhuh:
 

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So where does Frank fit in the timeline for yall :patrice:


Do yall want him to eventually start or just see him as an energetic 6th man that can defend well. :jbhmm:

I'm only saying this because it almost makes no sense to keep him.

He needs to be in a system where he can flourish. Somewhere like SA. Pop loves high iq players like Frank.

Nah, I don't think there's any reason to dump him for a small return. He's cheap now and should be cheap to re-sign. You can afford to take your time when the price is low and the upside is legit. If someone offered him starter money after next season, I'd change my mind. But you don't dump your best perimeter defender when he's only 21 years old. Especially if you can bring him back at a back-up price. Right now his utility is off the bench defensive specialist, pay him like that and if his game develops you'll be working with a better player than how he's paid. If not...you still have someone useful when you need to chain stops together.
 

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Again it’s nikkas who are outright talking about Fiz and dissing him through subliminal agenda laden post.

I was merely responding to an ongoing discussion.

Me and @seemorecizzy don’t give a fukk about Fizdale like that. We just see through the bullshyt and know that while he may not be a great coach he was dealt a poor hand by the front office and firing him this season was pointless and makes us look bad throughout the league.

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for da final time, i dont care about fizdale like that. if he was fired at da end of da season along with the front office, i wouldnt of said a word.

my issue is the 10 games in press conference that threw him under the bus, and my issue is firing him 20 games into the season. its a bad look for the team, and it make other coaches hesistant to invest in us in the future because the perception is, we shyt on our coaches and dont give them a chance or the tools to succeed.

my other issue is the front office and ppl in here sending direct and indirect shots blaming him for a lost season when in fact, the team itself is trash. you can find posts after all 3 of our wins with ppl in here clowning him, but theres been nothin but slient in our 5 losses.

fiz situation looks even worse now because clearly payton is our best pg and fiz only got to coach him for 4 games. then you throw mike miller, who is a good coach, into the mix and he will most likely be fired as well because getting 20 wins (if we lucky) aint good enough for dolan.

i feel like im going to have to explain this to you all over again in a week:mjlol:
so i dont know if there's even a point to this.
 
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for da final time, i dont care about fizdale like that. if he was fired at da end of da season along with the front office, i wouldnt of said a word.

my issue is the 10 games in press conference that threw him under the bus, and my issue is firing him 20 games into the season. its a bad look for the team, and it make other coaches hesistant to invest in us in the future because the perception is, we shyt on our coaches and dont give them a chance or the tools to succeed.

my other issue is the front office and ppl in here sending direct and indirect shots blaming him for a lost season when in fact, the team itself is trash. you can find posts after all 3 of our wins with ppl in here clowning him, but theres been nothin but slient in our 5 losses.

fiz situation looks even worse now because clearly payton is our best pg and fiz only got to coach him for 4 games. then you throw mike miller, who is a good coach, into the mix and he will most likely be fired as well because getting 20 wins (if we lucky) aint good enough for dolan.

i feel like im going to have to explain this to you all over again in a week:mjlol:
so i dont know if there's even a point to this.

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and i said if anything, he shoulda been fired by at the end of da season along with da front office. firing him 20 games in was erratic and made us look stupid around the league.

no wonder people dont wanna come here.
The Knicks are the first organization to fire a coach after 20 games? Didn't a nikka get fired after four? Gtfoh with these dumb ass narratives. No other team would look erratic and stupid for firing a BAD coach. Stop caping
 

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And to answer my own question...JUST TWO SEASON'S AGO

Watson was fired by the Phoenix Suns three games into the 2017-2018 season, soon after Eric Bledsoe made clear he wanted to leave the Suns. They lost all games up until that point, and they lost three of them by more than 40 points. Watson first became the interim coach in 2016, after the Suns fired the previous coach, Jeff Hornacek, and they offered him the position as head coach soon after.

Tired of these disingenuous ass nikkas
 

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The Knicks are the first organization to fire a coach after 20 games? Didn't a nikka get fired after four? Gtfoh with these dumb ass narratives. No other team would look erratic and stupid for firing a BAD coach. Stop caping
i dont know or care who got fired after 4 games
im talking about us
all da other coaches that spoke on our situation are saying the same thing.
i dont understand why its so hard for you to see it.
we are fresh off of bringing in hornacek and forcing him to run an offense he didnt wanna run.
 
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