Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[dave]

Portland is no longer a destination since they got Melo

I'm down to package Randle to OKC for CP3

CP3 for Randle

do it Mills

before yo ass get fired

 

[nyknick]

CP3 for Randle

do it Mills

before yo ass get fired

Hello no

CP is 34 years old with three years remaining of his contract. And you know the moment he puts on a Knicks jersey he will get a career ending injury.

 

[ISO]

Hello no

CP is 34 years old with three years remaining of his contract. And you know the moment he puts on a Knicks jersey he will get a career ending injury.

CP3 is still arguably a top 10 point guard. He'd fit a position of great need for us could really completely transform our offense especially if Morris slides to the 4.

His game is built off skill and I.Q. so as long as he stays relatively healthy (65 games) he could be a nice stop gap for us. It gets Randle the fukk off this team.

What do you propose?

 

[KnicksTape]

Julius is very underrated in this thread. He's not being utilized properly. He's also still young and can be part of our long-time future.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Julius is very underrated in this thread. He's not being utilized properly. He's also still young and can be part of our long-time future.

Troll ?

 

[JMurder]

Hello no

CP is 34 years old with three years remaining of his contract. And you know the moment he puts on a Knicks jersey he will get a career ending injury.

My nikka...he just dropped 30, 10 and 8 on the Bulls. His first 30 point game since a week ago. He opens up the floor by adding another 3 point shooter, would be the veteran PG who could show Frank & DSJ how to improve their game, and only his and Randle's contracts end the same year. The only difference is that if we decide to waive Randle (which I'm pretty sure we wouldn't do anyway), we'd only have to pay him 4 million. But either way, they're both off the books in 2022.

Not to mention it's addition by subtraction, you get rid of Randle, you can put Mitch back in the lineup and still have good spacing:

PG Paul
SG Ntilikina
SF Barrett
PF Mook
C Mitch



NBA Trade Machine - ESPN



(Shout out to homeboy who been trying to get us to trade for CP3 all season)

 

[JMurder]

CP3 is still arguably a top 10 point guard. He'd fit a position of great need for us could really completely transform our offense especially if Morris slides to the 4.

His game is built off skill and I.Q. so as long as he stays relatively healthy (65 games) he could be a nice stop gap for us. It gets Randle the fukk off this team.

What do you propose?

We agree on something?

 

[nyknick]

CP3 is still arguably a top 10 point guard. He'd fit a position of great need for us could really completely transform our offense especially if Morris slides to the 4.

His game is built off skill and I.Q. so as long as he stays relatively healthy (65 games) he could be a nice stop gap for us. It gets Randle the fukk off this team.

What do you propose?

Make everyone on the roster over 23 years old available for picks.

Fire Mills and Perry and let a new GM start with a blank slate and a top pick. Instead of being shackled by a broken down CP3 for the next 3 years because Pills wanted to save their jobs.

 

[JMurder]

NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

 

[JMurder]

Make everyone on the roster over 23 years old available for picks.

You think we're getting picks for Randle, Portis, Taj, and Wayne Ellington?

We're shackled to Randle for the same amount of years and an older CP3 is still more valuable even at the higher salary.

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Chris at pg and Morris at the 4 would turn the Knicks into a decent team, and the Thunder would probably just be happy to get Paul's extra year and money off of the books, so they might not even ask for additional assets. I'd do it, fukk it.

 

[KnicksTape]

Troll ?

I'm not a fan of Randle by any means. I think he's a very solid player and I just think he's not being used properly. He can be a solid 2nd option on a good team. We just need to support him.

 

[nyknick]

My nikka...he just dropped 30, 10 and 8 on the Bulls. His first 30 point game since a week ago. He opens up the floor by adding another 3 point shooter, would be the veteran PG who could show Frank & DSJ how to improve their game, and only his and Randle's contracts end the same year. The only difference is that if we decide to waive Randle (which I'm pretty sure we wouldn't do anyway), we'd only have to pay him 4 million. But either way, they're both off the books in 2022.

Not to mention it's addition by subtraction, you get rid of Randle, you can put Mitch back in the lineup and still have good spacing:

PG Paul
SG Ntilikina
SF Barrett
PF Mook
C Mitch



NBA Trade Machine - ESPN



(Shout out to homeboy who been trying to get us to trade for CP3 all season)

I'm not saying he's not still good. I'm saying I don't want us to be Detroit Pistons

The whole point of the rebuild was to make a contending team through youth and a couple of good free agents. But I guess people lost sight of that after multiple 30 point blow outs, poor coaching and Mills/Perry incompetence.

But we're still on the same, good rebuilding path if we get rid of current management.

Call up Masai/Morey/Presti and say we're giving you keys to this team, you decide everything. There's just this small thing of a 35 year old making over 40 million next two years on our salary cap

 

[JMurder]

So you guys understand the contract situations:
Julius Randle
Chris Paul

Reminder: Randle has 3 years guaranteed (no team option like first reported) with the 3rd year only having 4 million guaranteed out of a 19.8 million year (only applies if the Knicks decide not to waive him entering the season)

Chris at pg and Morris at the 4 would turn the Knicks into a decent team, and the Thunder would probably just be happy to get Paul's extra year and money off of the books, so they might not even ask for additional assets. I'd do it, fukk it.

Knicks definitely would be in the position to have OKC add to their cap this season with the advantage of having to only pay 4 million dollars to Randle in a year where they were slated to pay CP3 44 mill if he picked up his player option. That's a 40 million dollar cap cut...if I'm OKC I'm saying yes to that trade.

Edit: Specifically this trade
NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

I'm not saying he's not still good. I'm saying I don't want us to be Detroit Pistons

The whole point of the rebuild was to make a contending team through youth and a couple of good free agents. But I guess people lost sight of that after multiple 30 point blow outs, poor coaching and Mills/Perry incompetence.

But we're still on the same, good rebuilding path if we get rid of current management.

Call up Masai/Morey/Presti and say we're giving you keys to this team, you decide everything. There's just this small thing of a 35 year old making over 40 million next two years on our salary cap

I feel you 100%, and if the Knicks are bound to lose then I do wanna see the Knicks look forward and flip some players for future assets, but after 20 years of losing I just wanna see some good basketball in NY again, so if there's a chance to see it then I'd rather the Knicks go that route. Plus having Paul on the team would help build back up a respectable culture in NY, and I'm afraid that all the losing is gonna eventually take it's toll on all the young players on the roster (if it hasn't all already).