bigbadbossup2012
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actually they're absolute opinions
Oldheads who ran 1995: biggie or tupac
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
The riaa site has never been wholely accurate.
This has been known since its creation online.
Just the fact you think it is correct and reference it for albums released well before its creation.
Plus try to use it for an artist with posthumous overswelling sales.
Shows you don't know what really happened.
It is almost an internet unspoken rule to never bank on riaa certs online listings as accurate.
Art Barr
You want it to be one way but it is the other way
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Ok,give me something more reliable
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
NY was a niche radio programming market then.
As nationally rap was not added to national playlist as a rule or addition as a consistent science till 96 and the explosion of the hiphop lives radio stations nationally.
Previously Pac, was one of the very few nationally played daytime rap artist with I get around.
In that era, deep covers, they want efx and cream were all slow burn singles added in the spring of 93
well after their explosion as grassroots drawing singles that earned their way through slow burn to a changing daytime playlist format in radio.
Pac was one of the very few daytime draw and bds playlist added songs.
Back when rap was not really played during daytime playlists.
That is how much bigger Pac was than big.
As big was not a daytime bds playlist played artist like pac with big poppa. Big poppa had morning playlist spins from tom Joyner because of who and what tom Joyner is.
Yet outside of that big was not slun consistently at all in a daytime format for juicy or big poppa.
Pac was much larger and was even a daytime playlist artist with the edgy I get around as a single.
Back when they did not olay rap during the daytime outside of like heavy d.
That is how much larger a draw Pac was in relation to big whom was just starting out.
Art Barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Big dumbass riaa cert is everywhere and I got a double post.
@bigbadbossup2012
You done posted that goof ass riaa bullshyt and fukked the page up.
Riaa cert sticker is just floating everywhere.
Art Barr
@bigbadbossup2012
You done posted that goof ass riaa bullshyt and fukked the page up.
Riaa cert sticker is just floating everywhere.
Art Barr
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
NY was a niche radio programming market then.
As nationally rap was not added to national playlist.
as a rule or addition as a consistent science till 96 and the explosion of the hiphop lives radio stations nationally.
Previously Pac, was one of the very few nationally played daytime rap artist with I get around.
In that era, deep covers, they want efx and cream were all slow burn singles added in the spring of 93
well after their explosion as grassroots drawing singles that earned their way through slow burn to a changing daytime playlist format in radio.
Pac was one of the very few daytime draw and bds playlist added songs.
Back when rap was not really played during daytime playlists.
That is how much bigger Pac was than big.
As big was not a daytime bds playlist played artist like pac with big poppa. Big poppa had morning playlist spins from tom Joyner because of who and what tom Joyner is.
Yet outside of that big was not spun consistently at all in a daytime format for juicy or big poppa.
Pac was much larger and was even a daytime playlist artist with the edgy I get around as a single.
Back when they did not play rap during the daytime outside of like heavy d.
That is how much larger a draw Pac was in relation to big whom was just starting out.
Art Barr
shyt they still play I get around.
as a daytime bds playlist record based off its first Gen numbers.
I get around, is still one of the original daytime gangsta rap artist record ever programmed.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
So no one can compile a better list of moments for anyone in 1995 and the nikka claiming my sources are not on point,doesnt have better sources to prove i'm wrong. Guess i win as usual. Hail king of 1995 Biggie smalls
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
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There is nuffin reliable about getting accurate riaa certs.
Plus real talk,...
We should be discussing the culture and skills.
Yet, gateway rap fans are still stuck on two gateway pop artist like big and Pac.
When there are better and more skilled artists in rap history to talk about.
Yet here we are talembout the two again,.....
nikkaz don't want to talk about the culture because it exposes their lack of.
So, we get bullshyt like whose pop draw was bigger between big and Pac.
When bone was bigger than big and from a mainstream pop gateway fan perspective..e1999 was the go to thug thing that superceded pac's draw at that time .
Plus, thug anything was connected to bone.
Even if Pac had his gorillas in the mist lenchmob moment on the thug life album
Plus mobbdeep put on for Hennessey first with regular nigaz, with the foam cups and jerseys.
before enemies and Hennessey became known as the Pac cliche buzzword rhymes as well.
As, pac was not as big a draw as bone at all, either at that exact time.
Regular non-bboys were worried about bone not Pac or big.
nikkaz had braids, or the h town jodeci dalvin pump then
You was not getting laid unless you looked like bizzy bone, or dalvin and devante anyway.
Nobody was bigger than bone from a mainstream ideal.
culturally nas superceded the Wu and was more culturally commended and celebrated way out of big's reach culturally at the time. Culturally even jeru was bigger, than big.
As the cultural artist culture based draw superceded any mainstream draw or permeation in rap.
So bone may have been larger in draw.
Yet, were not viewed culturally as relevent at all.
Art Barr
There is nuffin reliable about getting accurate riaa certs.
Plus real talk,...
We should be discussing the culture and skills.
Yet, gateway rap fans are still stuck on two gateway pop artist like big and Pac.
When there are better and more skilled artists in rap history to talk about.
Yet here we are talembout the two again,.....
nikkaz don't want to talk about the culture because it exposes their lack of.
So, we get bullshyt like whose pop draw was bigger between big and Pac.
When bone was bigger than big and from a mainstream pop gateway fan perspective..e1999 was the go to thug thing that superceded pac's draw at that time .
Plus, thug anything was connected to bone.
Even if Pac had his gorillas in the mist lenchmob moment on the thug life album
Plus mobbdeep put on for Hennessey first with regular nigaz, with the foam cups and jerseys.
before enemies and Hennessey became known as the Pac cliche buzzword rhymes as well.
As, pac was not as big a draw as bone at all, either at that exact time.
Regular non-bboys were worried about bone not Pac or big.
nikkaz had braids, or the h town jodeci dalvin pump then
You was not getting laid unless you looked like bizzy bone, or dalvin and devante anyway.
Nobody was bigger than bone from a mainstream ideal.
culturally nas superceded the Wu and was more culturally commended and celebrated way out of big's reach culturally at the time. Culturally even jeru was bigger, than big.
As the cultural artist culture based draw superceded any mainstream draw or permeation in rap.
So bone may have been larger in draw.
Yet, were not viewed culturally as relevent at all.
Art Barr
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i contend he wouldnt have made alot of nikkas top 5's at the time,and if he did it would be at the bottom of that top 5 across the nation....and you can definitley use the bay as a reference point,because unlike the east coast the bay is less unbias in regards to style....and Biggies style and some of his singles was west coast centric,theres nothimg that wouldve stopped him from getting love out there....plus on top of that i already proved the bays graciousness and humbleness
,Snoop wasnt a bay nikka but when it was his year he wouldve been if not THE favorite,he was undeniable and under consideration,same could be said for Bone with all the love i remember nikkas givin them,same as Pac....and while he's a bay nikka,true blue bay nikkas who repped harder would still get consideration over Pac,but when he dropped AEOM? He was in nikkas tops that same day....you CANT say this about Biggie at all....I dont need a consensus,but i say Biggie wasnt even up for consideration.Matter of fact im sick of yall actin like Snoop died ,@bigbadbossup2012 Snoop had a better singles run then Biggie hence why it was still his year before Biggie has a chance at that shyt....nikkas was definitly still fukkin with Snoop more than Big at the time,shyt look at the Source Awards that year...Snoop got a better reception than Biggie and all of Junior mafia in they own city
Snoop got more love disrespecting the east coast audience,than Biggie got when he won lyricist of the year over Nas
...when you gettin disrespected by the people of your own city,chances are you aint "That nikka" outside of it like yall tryna claim Biggie was
....it wasnt his year,hate it or love it
Snoop shouting out LbC gettin more love then Biggie shoutimg out Brooklyn
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Again, in a mainstream context with who you side with.
Especially, given your name and all..big was not a drAw at all to bone or Pac mainstream wise amoung regular pop construct based fans.
Culturally, big was not regarded larger than nas or jeru.
Big was in ramp up as an artist and as a viable draw in the pop world and rnb charts.
Art Barr
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Snoop's run was better. You are right and snoop also ran 1994. But biggie clearly ran 1995i contend he wouldnt have made alot of nikkas top 5's at the time,and if he did it would be at the bottom of that top 5 across the nation....and you can definitley use the bay as a reference point,because unlike the east coast the bay is less unbias in regards to style....and Biggies style and some of his singles was west coast centric,theres nothimg that wouldve stopped him from getting love out there....plus on top of that i already proved the bays graciousness and humbleness
Matter of fact im sick of yall actin like Snoop died ,@bigbadbossup2012 Snoop had a better singles run then Biggie hence why it was still his year before Biggie has a chance at that shyt....nikkas was definitly still fukkin with Snoop more than Big at the time,shyt look at the Source Awards that year...Snoop got a better reception than Biggie and all of Junior mafia in they own city
Snoop got more love disrespecting the east coast audience,than Biggie got when he won lyricist of the year over Nas
Snoop shouting out LbC gettin more love then Biggie shoutimg out Brooklyn
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Ok list anyone's 1995 moments that trumps big's. Cause that's my point. But you can't,no one can so I WIN.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Bone is all i need to put like I said earlier.
Yet since you skim you missed that part.
just like this time in history and relevance as well.
Pac was a bigger draw than big on a mainstream level and bone was the largest draw on a mainstream level with first of the month and e1999.
Until dear mama came and crushed the buildings.
Yes, one mo chance rocked hard as hell and so did the remixes sns it was a welcome addition to hear a more cultural based artist like big instead of non-culture connected artist in a pop context.
Yet and still it does not mean big superceded the draws of bone and Pac then.
Big drew and put the east coast on the map.
as far as a pop mainstream gangsta rap act as a draw with some cultural context.
Yet and still regular rap fans were larger fans in bulk of bone and then Pac.
Then Pac exclusively was the largest draw when dear mama rocked.
Art Barr
At that time in 1996, the perception of lack of quality music is mostly due to the whole Civil War that was going on between the east and west coast and using Pac & Biggie as representatives of a beef that was already brewing and just exploded in '96. But when it came to the MUSIC.... some of the best music of that DECADE and maybe the last year of a large mass amount of classic albums came from 1996. Today, in fact, marks the 20th anniversary of both "Stakes is High" & "It was Written". If you really look at all the albums that came out that year: All Eyez On Me & Makaveli, The Score, Geto Boy's Resurrection, The Root's Illadelph halflife, Beats Rhymes and Life, ATLiens, UGK's Ridin' Dirty, Hell on Earth, Too $hort's Gettin' It, Reasonable Doubt, Soul on Ice, Kollege, Heltak Skeltah's Nocturnal & OGC's Da Storm, Ironman, Westside Connection, America Is Dying Slowly, Losy Boyz Legal Drug Money, Muddy Waters, Busta's The Coming.....and a lot of stuff I left out, you really cannot be serious of it being a WEAK year musically at all.... especially the DRASTIC change in quality that following year in 1997... and that's due to the combination of both 'pac's and Biggie's murders and Telecommunications Act of 1996 which pretty much CRIPPLED hip hop that we know it. And that following year, 1997, was the real start of the beginning of weak material being released.
