On a technical level Eminem shyts on Nas and its not even close...heres why

[scuba]

So basically your saying eminem has a better double time flow and employs a way wider variety of flows. Which is pretty much a no-brainer. That's pretty much the definition of eminem's style.

eminem is more comparable style wise to busta rhymes or tech9ine than nas.

 

[Tuling]

Yeah but em's flow is unlistenable. It doesn't matter if it's innovative if it's just disgusting. I rather a monotone Nas over some boom bap any day

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

No doubt @intilectual recipricol jr.

 

[Prae]

Hey thats great but i made this thread cuz there seems to be a few Nas stans who believe that Nas can see Em at a technical ability when that couldnt be farther from the truth

If u feel Nas makes better music u can feel thats great but my gripe is towards ppl who say Nas is the most technical MC or that he's in the same league as Em on a technical level

Well Nas did influence Em.

And while I agree Em is better, I don't agree that Nas isn't even in the same league. In terms of multis and internal rhymes/overall structure Nas is certainly up there. And I think storytelling certainly should count for being technical, it takes pen skills to do that.

 

[pawdalaw]

Hey thats great but i made this thread cuz there seems to be a few Nas stans who believe that Nas can see Em at a technical ability when that couldnt be farther from the truth

If u feel Nas makes better music u can feel thats great but my gripe is towards ppl who say Nas is the most technical MC or that he's in the same league as Em on a technical level

Most People that I see speak of Nas say He is their Goat because he has the most honest lyrics, Next to Big&pac they feel his lyrics the most. EM is a textbook MC, and that's not a knock. I'll give him that. He probably is the greatest technician to date. I'd say He's better than Jay as well. I root for all 3 of them. They all have mastered a Craft. Imagine taking one talent from each rapper. And have all of that in one artist. That'll be when we can really call someone the Goat... But Yeah, Do You think Nas is Goat in his own right or Naw?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Tupac as well but Nas and Pac both are better than eminem, still, friend.

 

[the rhyme king]

lyrically eminem is better in terms of like rhyming syllables and rhyming alot of syllables and having more intricate rhyme schemes.

i mean take this verse this verse is nothing but multisyllable rhyming with perfect structure etc.


Ayo, my pen and paper cause a chain reaction
To get your brain relaxing, the zany acting maniac in action
A brainiac in fact son, you mainly lack attraction
You look insanely whack when just a fraction of my track spun
My rhyming skills got you climbing hills
I travel through your mind into your spine like siren drills
I'm sliming grills of roaches, with spray that disinfects 'em
Twisting necks of rappers 'til their spinal column disconnects
Put this in decks and check the monologue, turn your system up
Twist them up, and indulge in the marijuana smog
This is the season for noise pollution, contamination
Examination of more cartoons than animation
My lamination of narration
Hits a snare and bass on a track fukked up rapper interrogation
When I declare invasion, there ain't no time to be staring
Gazing I turn the stage into a barren wasteland

 

[Truality]

i agree with threadstarter but isn't this obvious

nas has a way better catalog and more enjoyable tracks tho

also more deeper poetic lyricism

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

there are a sh1tload of other emcees who double time better than Eminem, so wtf is your point? double time is a small part of being a total emcee...to use that as your reasonaing as to why he's better technically than Nas is like saying John Starks is a better shooter than Michael Jordan because Starks shot 3 pointers better.

 

[the rhyme king]

there are a sh1tload of other emcees who double time better than Eminem, so wtf is your point? double time is a small part of being a total emcee...to use that as your reasonaing as to why he's better technically than Nas is like saying John Starks is a better shooter than Michael Jordan because Starks shot 3 pointers better.

nobody does double time flow better then eminem expect like twista or something

 

[blackslash]

Well Nas did influence Em.

And while I agree Em is better, I don't agree that Nas isn't even in the same league. In terms of multis and internal rhymes/overall structure Nas is certainly up there. And I think storytelling certainly should count for being technical, it takes pen skills to do that.

Naaah it doesnt breh...thats an appeal to content

And hell even in storytelling I think Em got him

Kim is one of the most graphic stories told in hip hop..nas has no song that has a story that can actually pull u in like that with the way its delivered

 

[mr.africa]

double time flow confuses so many people.i see that the double time flow has people thinking em is on levels others cannot reach.
get the fukk outta here with nas cannot see em technically. as a nas fan i will agree em is better technically, but it is much closer than people think.
nas uses fast flow every now and then, but only fleetingly. so dude has it in his arsenal.
example lil wayne's outro track

'Track record goes back to "The Essence",
Smack adolescents who ask who the best is
I'm nasty like gas from a fat man, intestine,
I pass it, you gaspin' for breath and you die fast
But I'm like a gastric bypass,....'

and there are other aspects where nas makes em look like an amateur. nas says shyt like this:

To call them fake today is hate, real nikkas extinct
Pac left me inside a rap world with nikkas that wink
At other rappers, undercover nikkas spit every way
Won't be surprised if all their rides have federal plates
Let alone their wardrobes and Studio 4 flow
It was real when I appeared, it would've been some jaws broke
Nas, my real name, stage name, same thing
How could you let these lames claim king? I'm so ashamed, man
I light a L for Vernon, for nikkas who would burn in Hell
For Vernon; 10th Street, 12th Street, Nightmare on Elm Street
Pimps creep, delve deep inside the editorials
Of the ghetto queens, kings, stories true
Who possesses the testicular fortitude
To blow away myths that's a hindrance to all of you
You blame your own shortcomings on sex and race
The mafia, homosexuals and all the Jews
It's hogwash point of views, stereotypical
Anti-Semitic like the foul words Gibson spewed
And it's pathetic, I don't get the credit I deserve
That's why I hate doing interviews
But I don't sweat it, study long, study raw
My man Dion said "Nas over-think the songs he writing"
I'm not a wack performer standing near a corny hype man
I got the Donism in me, I'm here to enlighten


i guess i am one of those that admires fast flow but am not overly impressed by it.

 

[blackslash]

My n1gga you are losing it...Are you going through a manic episode?

The fact u even read my OP makes me wantin to ask u the same thing

 

[blackslash]

double time flow confuses so many people.i see that the double time flow has people thinking em is on levels others cannot reach.
get the fukk outta here with nas cannot see em technically. as a nas fan i will agree em is better technically, but it is much closer than people think.
nas uses fast flow every now and then, but only fleetingly. so dude has it in his arsenal.
example lil wayne's outro track

'Track record goes back to "The Essence",
Smack adolescents who ask who the best is
I'm nasty like gas from a fat man, intestine,
I pass it, you gaspin' for breath and you die fast
But I'm like a gastric bypass,....'

and there are other aspects where nas makes em look like an amateur. nas says shyt like this:

To call them fake today is hate, real nikkas extinct
Pac left me inside a rap world with nikkas that wink
At other rappers, undercover nikkas spit every way
Won't be surprised if all their rides have federal plates
Let alone their wardrobes and Studio 4 flow
It was real when I appeared, it would've been some jaws broke
Nas, my real name, stage name, same thing
How could you let these lames claim king? I'm so ashamed, man
I light a L for Vernon, for nikkas who would burn in Hell
For Vernon; 10th Street, 12th Street, Nightmare on Elm Street
Pimps creep, delve deep inside the editorials
Of the ghetto queens, kings, stories true
Who possesses the testicular fortitude
To blow away myths that's a hindrance to all of you
You blame your own shortcomings on sex and race
The mafia, homosexuals and all the Jews
It's hogwash point of views, stereotypical
Anti-Semitic like the foul words Gibson spewed
And it's pathetic, I don't get the credit I deserve
That's why I hate doing interviews
But I don't sweat it, study long, study raw
My man Dion said "Nas over-think the songs he writing"
I'm not a wack performer standing near a corny hype man
I got the Donism in me, I'm here to enlighten


i guess i am one of those that admires fast flow but am not overly impressed by it.

I heard that track ur talm bout

That was not double timing he did

 

[OG Talk]

The fact u even read my OP makes me wantin to ask u the same thing

You referenced the Gawd's name 13 times in one post...Of course I'm gonna read it