One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America

[Asicz]

The African born man who is a follower of Pan African ideology and who also advocates returning to his homeland etc is in the video of the OP is soft trolling Black Americans.

Some lame Africans online like to troll Black Americans about our non African ancestry.

 

[King]

do u think economically there is a difference between black & mixed people in america?

It depends largely on where they’re from and the network/wealth their white side has.

All other things equal, yes they will be more successful, but not by much. Probably along the same lines of a light skinned black person.

It’s well documented how much better they do economically in terms of getting jobs, succeeding in corporate America, etc. But not by much, there’s definitely a glass ceiling.

 

[Asicz]

Now I do think we can look at data and if there is an argument to be made about the economic and quality of life outcomes and achievement outcomes of adult children with recent/ direct white parentage.

We cam also look at data that points to black boys having batter outcomes with a White mother vs a Black mother. Is thete a social wealth and wealth advatage from mixed parentage?

 

[13473]

It depends largely on where they’re from and the network/wealth their white side has.

All other things equal, yes they will be more successful, but not by much. Probably along the same lines of a light skinned black person.

It’s well documented how much better they do economically in terms of getting jobs, succeeding in corporate America, etc. But not by much, there’s definitely a glass ceiling.

Ok, let's assume mixed people are somehow just as successful as LS black people economically ( i'm using it for the example since u said it)

according to average salaries below, a dark skinned man makes on average 26k while a light one makes 36k. that's a 10k difference...to someone making 26k a year that's 40%

how is 40% not a lot? if this is the difference between black people, then yes i assume someone with a white parent makes much more.

The Gender of Colorism: Understanding the Intersection of Skin Tone and Gender Inequality

 

[ultraflexed]

I don't like the disingenuous nature of the conversation from darker skin Black Americans and Africans online about this because it is generally in bad faith.

It is a veiled resentment about and attack on lighter skinned Black people and biracials and the perceived and real associated advantages economically, psychologically, and socially of being lighter complexioned.

It is a lazy reckless form of colorism.
And it doesn't account for the disadvantages than non dark skin Black Americans also endure even if not to the same degree as darker skinned Black people. And even that is debatable in certain regards imo.

In America Blackness is also political identity with political and social consequences/outcomes not just a skin tone

This is gaslighting and projection.

The one drop rule was created by whites.
Slaves=ados had no say in the matter.

I love my lightskin brothas and sisters, my father is lightskin, my wife is lightskin, all three of my kids are lightskin, there not biracial, but they are lightskin.
The one drop rule is a foundation building block of white supremacy, biracial that have a white parent should not feel forced into blackness because certain whites wont accept there white side...that is not the problem of the African American collective

That is the problem of white people. And your allowing them to dissolve themselves of biracials in other to uphold white pure blood= white supremacy.

The funny part is in america most biracials are more white then black around 60-70% white due to AA's having 10-30% white admixture.

This is 2021 the one drop rule is a 1800's loophole in order keep, rape and sell slaves as property even if they had a white parent.

Why in the fucc would you even think to uphold something so stupid, sinister, twisted in 2021.
Let Biracials be what they are...BIRACIAL, let them take pride in both sides, in there history, stop forcing them to play tug-of-war with there heritage, that's why alot of them have mental issues

Other then that, african Americans=ados have to, need to, take control of our own identity. We are lineage, a bloodline, not a attitude, or experience.
We have history, heroes, ancestors..ect. we are a people group

 

[KamikazePilot]

Ok, let's assume mixed people are somehow just as successful as LS black people economically (doesn't make sense to me, but i'm using it for the example since u said it)

according to average salaries below, a dark skinned man makes on average 26k while a light one makes 36k. that's a 10k difference...to someone making 26k a year that's 40%

how is 40% not a lot? if this is the difference between black people, then yes i assume someone with a white parent makes much more.

The Gender of Colorism: Understanding the Intersection of Skin Tone and Gender Inequality

So what about light skin black people with 2 parents does that mean they’re not black because they of higher economic success?

This is gaslighting and projection.

The one drop rule was created by whites.
Slaves=ados had no say in the matter.

I love my lightskin brothas and sisters, my father is lightskin, my wife is lightskin, all three of my kids are lightskin, there not biracial, but they are lightskin.
The one drop rule is a foundation building block of white supremacy, biracial that have a white parent should not feel forced into blackness because certain whites wont accept there white side...that is not the problem of the African American collective

That is the problem of white people. And your allowing them to dissolve themselves of biracials in other to uphold white pure blood= white supremacy.

The funny part is in america most biracials are more white then black around 60-70% white due to AA's having 10-30% white admixture.

This is 2021 the one drop rule is a 1800's loophole in order keep, rape and sell slaves as property even if they had a white parent.

Why in the fucc would you even think to uphold something so stupid, sinister, twisted in 2021.
Let Biracials be what they are...BIRACIAL, let them take pride in both sides, in there history, stop forcing them to play tug-of-war with there heritage, that's why alot of them have mental issues

Other then that, african Americans=ados have to, need to, take control of our own identity. We are lineage, a bloodline, not a attitude, or experience.
We have history, heroes, ancestors..ect. we are a people group

The one drop rule was never for biracials they were always “black” by default. The one for rule is for quadroons and octoroons we haven’t used the one drop rule in 60 years.

 

[I Really Mean It]

Race is determined by phenotype and how others see you that’s it.

Look black=black

look non-black = not black

Race has no scientific base if it did almost every African American would be labeled “mixed”

 

[King]

Ok, let's assume mixed people are somehow just as successful as LS black people economically (doesn't make sense to me, but i'm using it for the example since u said it)

according to average salaries below, a dark skinned man makes on average 26k while a light one makes 36k. that's a 10k difference...to someone making 26k a year that's 40%

how is 40% not a lot? if this is the difference between black people, then yes i assume someone with a white parent makes much more.

The Gender of Colorism: Understanding the Intersection of Skin Tone and Gender Inequality

What is the actual point you’re trying to argue here?

 

[13473]

So what about light skin black people with 2 parents does that mean they’re not black because they of higher economic success?
.

this is your attempt to redirect the conversation by making me defend a point i never argued.

I asked you the question i asked because you are in this thread acting as if grouping 2 races together benefits black people from being at the bottom and somehow prevents mixed people from attaining certain benefits similarly as they do in other countries where they are labeled mixed. If this was the case, then regardless of appearance we'd all be making the same; that's not true.

you brought up LS people saying mixed stats must be similar to that of LS, so i used their stats as reference.

 

[Cadillac]

I'll just do what i been doing

refer to what @IllmaticDelta has laid out for years on here

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-and-how-its-to-afroamerican-identity.327574/


some of yall are making this more complicated than what it is. ESP with threads like this already disproving some of the myths yall continue to regurgitate on here

at this point yall just saying shyt to continue on a narrative to brainwash yourself and other people

 

[King]

this is your attempt to redirect the conversation by making me defend a point i never argued.

I asked you the question i asked because you are in this thread acting as if grouping 2 races together benefits black people from being at the bottom and somehow prevents mixed people from attaining certain benefits similarly as they do in other countries where they are labeled mixed. If this was the case, then regardless of appearance we'd all be making the same; that's not true.

you brought up LS people saying mixed stats must be similar to that of LS, so i used their stats as reference.

You had me confused with a poster of a similar username, beloved.

 

[Black Barbie]

A bunch of Non Ados in this thread trying to determine who's black in America. Back in the day y'all would've been yelling from the rooftop y'all not black, now you're trying to tell ados who's black... in America?

 

[King]

I'll just do what i been doing

refer to what @IllmaticDelta has laid out for years on here

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-and-how-its-to-afroamerican-identity.327574/


some of yall are making this more complicated than what it is. ESP with threads like this already disproving some of the myths yall continue to regurgitate on here

at this point yall just saying shyt to continue on a narrative to brainwash yourself and other people

Exactly the point I was trying to make. Tbh a lot of the sentiments in here sound like they’re coming from Africans and other non-ADOS people who don’t understand our experience.

It’s something we all know on a deep level. You could be mixed or have red hair and green eyes, but you still black.

If you don’t rock with that, fall the fukk back. This is our history and our identity in this country - it’s what has kept us together.

 

[Astroslik]

Ok, let's assume mixed people are somehow just as successful as LS black people economically ( i'm using it for the example since u said it)

according to average salaries below, a dark skinned man makes on average 26k while a light one makes 36k. that's a 10k difference...to someone making 26k a year that's 40%

how is 40% not a lot? if this is the difference between black people, then yes i assume someone with a white parent makes much more.

The Gender of Colorism: Understanding the Intersection of Skin Tone and Gender Inequality

Dapped for that study. Going to save this

 

[Houston911]

In 2021 you have a lot of people arguing that biracial and black is the same cuz they wanna have biracial kids but they want them to be viewed the same as actual black ones