One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America

[Cadillac]

And that nikka Nakeemy cannot be taken seriously in this discussion. Hes a dumbass Pan Africanist who clearly doesnt know shyt about ADOS history to even talk on this matter of ODR.

dudes like him who try to put on a front and say "brotha" constantly to be on some "enlightened brotha " type of time. Be the fakest mfs there is to

 

[Cadillac]

do u think economically there is a difference between black & mixed people in america?

and theres a difference economically and socially between fakkit as BM and straight ones

and there is a case with BW and BM as BM are getting exited out of society @Supper has a whole list of links, stats and data to prove it

if we gonna play this game of who has more priveledge, then we can apply this to everyone in the ADOS community of every color, gender, identifcation and whatever till we get to the bottom caste within the bottom which is Straight ADOS Black men who are the most crippled economically, and socially

Even in your own study Brown skin Blacks outdo Dark skin ones

So what are yall trying to get out of using this metric of "privledge" to determine who is ADOS/Black in America?

its simple as this if you have Ancestry to slavery in america, and even have a ADOS parent who has it to and idenfies as such and you identify as black.

then your black

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I'll just do what i been doing

refer to what @IllmaticDelta has laid out for years on here

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-and-how-its-to-afroamerican-identity.327574/


some of yall are making this more complicated than what it is. ESP with threads like this already disproving some of the myths yall continue to regurgitate on here

at this point yall just saying shyt to continue on a narrative to brainwash yourself and other people

this....all that other babble is non-ADOS talk. This is why Garvey couldn't accomplish anything in Jamaica/Caribbean and had to come to the USA to get his goals popping and why afro-latins in denial be racially confused

 

[Cadillac]

Exactly the point I was trying to make. Tbh a lot of the sentiments in here sound like they’re coming from Africans and other non-ADOS people who don’t understand our experience.

It’s something we all know on a deep level. You could be mixed or have red hair and green eyes, but you still black.

If you don’t rock with that, fall the fukk back. This is our history and our identity in this country - it’s what has kept us together.

its the usual suspects in threads like these

insecure females who dislike lightskin/biracial black american women, Corny Pan africanist, Hoteps, and Feminist Pandering Black male militants who believe in a bunch of mumbo jumbo but dont know shyt about ADOS history


so honestly its not even just Nonados nikkas(though they play a good part of partaking in this mess), theres some ADOS people who be out here looking stupid to.

Now as for Nonados biracials like say the Mowry Twins who come from a Bahamian mother? I dont care(just like i dont care about their mono racial nonados counterparts). To me only the ADOS Biracials count and are Black

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The one drop rule was created by whites.

Nope, Northern living Free ADOS created it before it was a rule. How many times do I have to post this for people to stop posting ducktales?

The modern Afram identity which is based on the "Black" concept and influenced by one-droppism, originated with free blacks in places like New York, Philadelphia, Boston etc...in the 1800s

Spoiler

this exact process played out when Frederick Douglas who was from the South, went North and encountered "Black Yankees"

Douglass considered himself to be neither White nor Black, but both. His multiracial self-identity showed in his first autobiography. Introducing his father in Narrative, Douglass wrote, “My father was a white man.” In this text, his mother was a stranger whom he had never seen in daylight, he could not picture her face, and he was unmoved by news of her death.4 Not only did Douglass adopt a fictional Scottish hero’s name, he emphasized his (perhaps imagined) Scots descent through his father.



Douglass’s cruelest discovery came after he broke with the Garrisonians and went out on his own. Abolitionist friends of both endogamous groups had warned him that there was nothing personal in how Garrison had used him. The public did not want an intermediary; they wanted an articulate Black. Douglass soon discovered that his friends were right. His newspaper, The North Star,failed to sell because it had no market; White Yankees wanted to read White publications and Black Yankees wanted to read Black ones. Indeed, Black political leaders resented Douglass’s distancing himself from Black ethno-political society. There was no room in Massachusetts for a man who straddled the color line.

Douglass dutifully reinvented himself. He applied himself to learning Black Yankee culture. “He began to build a closer relationship with… Negro leaders and with the Negro people themselves, to examine the whole range of Negro problems,





The clash between how Douglass saw himself in 1838 and the public persona that he was forced to portray, was due to the presence of African-American ethnicity in the North.17 Free citizens of part-African ancestry in the South, especially in the lower South, lacked the sense of common tradition associated with ethnic self-identity.

Essays on the U.S. Color Line » Blog Archive » The Color Line Created African-American Ethnicity in the North


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the One Drop Rule as a law by white people wasn't a thing until 1910s-1930s

Strangely enough, the one-drop rule was not made law until the early 20th century. This was decades after the Civil War, emancipation, and the Reconstruction era.

The first challenges to such state laws were overruled by Supreme Court decisions which upheld state constitutions that effectively disfranchised many. White Democratic-dominated legislatures proceeded with passing Jim Crow laws that instituted racial segregation in public places and accommodations, and passed other restrictive voting legislation. In Plessy v. Ferguson, the Supreme Court allowed racial segregation of public facilities, under the "separate but equal" doctrine.

Jim Crow laws reached their greatest influence during the decades from 1910 to 1930. Among them were hypodescent laws, defining as black anyone with any black ancestry, or with a very small portion of black ancestry.[3] Tennessee adopted such a "one-drop" statute in 1910, and Louisiana soon followed. Then Texas and Arkansas in 1911, Mississippi in 1917, North Carolina in 1923, Virginia in 1924, Alabama and Georgia in 1927, and Oklahoma in 1931. During this same period, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, and Utah retained their old "blood fraction" statutes de jure, but amended these fractions (one-sixteenth, one-thirty-second) to be equivalent to one-drop de facto.[18]

Before 1930, individuals of visible mixed European and African ancestry were usually classed as mulatto, or sometimes as black and sometimes as white, depending on appearance. Previously, most states had limited trying to define ancestry before "the fourth degree" (great-great-grandparents).

Slaves=ados had no say in the matter.

yes and no...it's not 100% straight forward as you might think

 

[Voice of Reason]

Africans coming over here think they can dictate who is considered black in this country.

 

[King]

its the usual suspects in threads like these

insecure females who dislike lightskin/biracial black american women, Corny Pan africanist, Hoteps, and Feminist Pandering Black male militants who believe in a bunch of mumbo jumbo but dont know shyt about ADOS history


so honestly its not even just Nonados nikkas, theres some ADOS people who be out here looking stupid to.

Now as for Nonados biracials like say the Mowry Twins who come from a Bahamian mother? I dont care(just like i dont care about their mono racial nonados counterparts). To me only the ADOS Biracials count and are Black

Yeah I’m tired of these motherfukkers coopting our identity. Like goddamn MAKE AN ATTEMPT to learn our history before you speak on shyt like you been here 400 years.

 

[The Solid One]

I'm almost done with it, but it's just different pov's
It's interesting, dude from Brooklyn told a South African dude he was gonna smack him

 

[13473]

Yeah I’m tired of these motherfukkers coopting our identity. Like goddamn MAKE AN ATTEMPT to learn our history before you speak on shyt like you been here 400 years.

what exactly does your name refer to?

 

[Cadillac]

this....all that other babble is non-ADOS talk. This is why Garvey couldn't accomplish anything in Jamaica/Caribbean and had to come to the USA to get his goals popping and white afro-latins in denial be be racially confused

Its also some ados posters spewing the same crap
Regardless, despite how many times you posted the evidence here and the fact that the thread has been there for a while with tons of proof.

you still got idiots slinging the same myths around thats been disputed. Alot of these nikkas on this site like to keep up the charade to gather daps or to maintain some militant, irate, mad at everything black identity on here to pander. Plus alot of these NONADOS nikkas are some biter ass nikkas mad about the biracials/lightskins back at their country
lightskin/Mixed ADOS blacks are an easy target on here as are Dominicans. To say "they aint black" or to poke at them to get daps and clout on here.

Despite the known history, hypodescence, and customs here to let you know, thats not the case.

 

[Captain Crunch]

Goddamn this thread has alot of foreign nikka babble

@CorporateTrapper talking about you can't trust mulattos, not knowing that in America it's been totally different(passing whites infiltrating KKK meetings, Frederick Douglas)

 

[Asicz]

: 41402939, member: 17615"]Nope, Northern living Free ADOS created it before it was a rule. How many times do I have to post this for people to stop posting ducktales?

The modern Afram identity which is based on the "Black" concept and influenced by one-droppism, originated with free blacks in places like New York, Philadelphia, Boston etc...in the 1800s

this exact process played out when Frederick Douglas who was from the South, went North and encountered "Black Yankees"

Essays on the U.S. Color Line » Blog Archive » The Color Line Created African-American Ethnicity in the North


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the One Drop Rule as a law by white people wasn't a thing until 1910s-1930s







yes and no...it's not 100% straight forward as you might think[/QUOTE]


I think I have a source where certain Colonies Virginia Louisiana codified miscegenation type laws or mixed race one drop rule into law earlier some time in the 17th or 18th century.
I'll post back later one source may be from Edmond Morgan's American Slavery Amercian Freedom

 

[larsattack]

Based on the one drop rule, this is the definition of a strong black woman.

Not true. The one drop said if her grand father was black than she would be black. That is saying her great-grandfather is the last black person in her lineage.

 

[Asante]

Fucc the one drop rule

If you got 2 black parents=black children

/thread

This rule is what swirlers swear by.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

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I think I have a source where certain Colonies Virginia Louisiana codified miscegenation type laws or mixed race one drop rule into law earlier some time in the 17th or 18th century.
I'll post back later one source may be from Edmond Morgan's American Slavery Amercian Freedom

that's not the same thing as One Drop Rule; that was based on the status of your mother

Partus sequitur ventrem (Latin for '"that which is brought forth follows the belly (womb)"'),[1] often abbreviated to partus, was a legal doctrine concerning the slave or free status of children born in the English royal colonies. Incorporated into legislation in the British American colonies and later in the United States, partus held that the legal status of a child followed that of his or her mother. Thus, any child born to an enslaved woman was born into slavery, regardless of the ancestry or citizenship of the father. This principle was widely adopted into the laws regarding slavery in the colonies and the following United States, eliminating financial responsibility of fathers for children born into slavery.

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this is why there were so many Free People of Color roaming around in Virginia/Carolinas in the 1600/1700s was because they had WHITE mothers (sometimes Amerindian) and BLACK fathers.