One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America

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yup! I was going to get to this point being that the white/amerindian mix was the closest thing to a TRUE BUFFER CLASS, not afro-europeans

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Something interesting I found. :jbhmm:

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White-Native Americans Are Largest Multiracial Group in U.S., Pew Study Finds
 

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Tiger a c00n to me, dude never claimed black. Rock is mixed bag imo, he was in the NOD but bc it’s wrestling it was promo. Never heard him say anything c00nish but it’s obvious he has is closer to his Samoan heritage or maybe he feels he can milk it more. He doesn’t talk on black issues but he doesn’t have to (rather a lot of black celebrities did this, instead of looking two faced or just ignorant)
there was big thread in TSC about the Rock and his blackness. He definitely said some lowkey c00n shyt like "I transcend race".



If he wants to rep his Samoan side it's whatever, but he definitely got sassy about his blackness. :mjpls:
 

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The cac media is trying to be politically correct and recognize people who are mixed as being unique, but they still turn and suggest they're Black..

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By the way, I don't know if anybody in this thread brought this up, but Light skinned Black people are not mixed, my mom and aunties are light skinned and I'm dark skinned. Nobody in my family now is "mixed", Chattel Slavery will do that to your family.

They're admixed, they're just an old monoracial multigen mix instead of a fresh first generation biracial mix.
 

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@IllmaticDelta in here educating folk. :wow:


Can't keep letting outsiders and confused/misinformed & uninformed ADOS spread ducktales about the origin of the One Drop Rule and how it relates to ADOS' identity and blackness in the USA. The same way Dubois had to put Garvey in his place (he was making observations as an outsider to the culture) about how Afram's saw themselves regardless of complexion





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Is how I gotta come at these outsiders/confused aframs practicing a reverse form of color struckness:francis::mjgrin:
 
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its that simple.

if you have a black parent and you look like blake griffin...i dont consider you black. Not unless you can go outside and be treated as such because based on features ppl identify you as black
Who are your parents?
What is your experience?

Those are the two major factors. Barack Obama doesn't have 2 black parents, but he's experienced the kind of racism most black men have. The suspicion, the distrust, the unwarranted hostility. So culturally speaking, he has more in common with a regular black American than a carribean or African coming to North America for the first time.

Mariah carey, Rashida Jones, logic, or Blake griffin have most likely never experienced the kind of anti black racism Obama did, despite also being mixed. They are all treated as a type of off-white rather than black and it would be ridiculous for someone like logic to go around talking about "as a black man" and he knows it.

this is not a good measure nor should be the default to who is black

there are brown skinned people in the world who look like ADOS people, they can use logic like yall are using and say "i am black". And its that loop hole yall are presenting on why caribbeans, africans, anyone brown exploits ADOS benefits, gets into spaces. And being called things they are not.

Obama was pampered and practically taught on how to relate to ADOS people, he wasnt raised around ADOS people. Nor does he have the ancestry to excuse that. so nah he dont count. Despite their appearance Blake and Rashida are more black american than he is.

being black american hugely based on ancestry. That phenotype/how you were seen and treated is very flawed. and partly why NonADOS people can skate by right now
 

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this is not a good measure nor should be the default to who is black

there are brown skinned people in the world who look like ADOS people, they can use logic like yall are using and say "i am black". And its that loop hole yall are presenting on why caribbeans, africans, anyone brown exploits ADOS benefits, gets into spaces. And being called things they are not.

Obama was pampered and practically taught on how to relate to ADOS people, he wasnt raised around ADOS people. Nor does he have the ancestry to excuse that. so nah he dont count. Despite their appearance Blake and Rashida are more black american than he is.
do those brown skinned ppl look black feature wise?

you can look at a dark sri lankan and know he isnt black cause of their hair and facial features
but if its somebody like this

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he is basically black and i would understand if he identified as such . Someone like that is more black than Blake Griffin is. PERIOD
 

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do those brown skinned ppl look black feature wise?

you can look at a dark sri lankan and know he isnt black cause of their hair and facial features
but if its somebody like this

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he is basically black and i would understand if he identified as such . Someone like that is more black than Blake Griffin is. PERIOD
Mindy Kaling's brother: I faked being black - CNN

a indian literally got by pretending to be black

and you have had cases where indian women were confused as being lightskin ADOS Bw or even brownskin ADOS BW


your trying to steer this ship into appearance, and no thats not how it is. This is about lineage and ancestry. Your Nigerian/African no? someone like you is not what people think when people say "black american" here in America. so this isnt something I am making up. Even your people and everyone else thinks and knows that Black american refers to ADOS people. a group of people who all share slavery here in America.

yall are in no space to gatekeep blackness here.
 

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Yup. And a lot of Africans and non-ADOS people come here with their colonized and tribal mindsets. Quick to tell us how to run shyt like they been here 400 years.
they want to bring their dysfunction here to America on top of trying to make room for themselves in our community.

I been said this, alot of these nonados want to push out certain type of ADOS people so they can reap the benefits of who is considered "black" and who is able to get into certain spaces.

look at how some of these guys are trying to parameter blackness around "how dark you are" and needing 2 blk parents, as well as the obsession with purity.

they trying to push themselves thru the door and get into the house built by Black americans of all shades, mixtures, etc.

Because they were unable to build back in their home country.

We are witnessing groups of people trying to force themselves in our community, not even because "they love us" but because they see opportunities for them to seize.
 
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do those brown skinned ppl look black feature wise?

you can look at a dark sri lankan and know he isnt black cause of their hair and facial features
but if its somebody like this

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he is basically black and i would understand if he identified as such . Someone like that is more black than Blake Griffin is. PERIOD
Nah, you tryna do the whole "skinfolk kinfolk" type deal. Blake Griffin is more Black American than that dude. Again, you Non-ADOS/FBA don't get to dictate who is and who isn't Black over here in America, however you're free to do that in YOUR homelands.
 

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right now its mixed/lightskin ADOS people

brown skin ADOS people are up next, infact some of these people are already complaining about and attacking them I.E: Beyonce, Lori harvey.

Lowkey, Brown skin ADOS people are already getting their blackness questioned by these NonADOS

then soon these groups will start critiquing darkskin ADOS blacks and state how they are not dark enough etc.

And given NonADOS have more prviledge than ADOS do. Best believe if blackness came down to darkskin people(It wont, but lets say it does in this crazy alternative) best believe the people in charge like whites, Nonados will hire the NonADOS person over the Black american
 
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this is not a good measure nor should be the default to who is black

there are brown skinned people in the world who look like ADOS people, they can use logic like yall are using and say "i am black". And its that loop hole yall are presenting on why caribbeans, africans, anyone brown exploits ADOS benefits, gets into spaces. And being called things they are not.

Obama was pampered and practically taught on how to relate to ADOS people, he wasnt raised around ADOS people. Nor does he have the ancestry to excuse that. so nah he dont count. Despite their appearance Blake and Rashida are more black american than he is.

being black american hugely based on ancestry. That phenotype/how you were seen and treated is very flawed. and partly why NonADOS people can skate by right now
I'm not concerned about diaspora wars. I'm talking about the concept of blackness in a global sense. An African or carribean person gets his or her introduction to blackness when they come to a country where they are not the majority. Racism is intricately linked to the black experience. There is a reason why on a list of racial slurs black people have the most derogatory terms to describe us. Anti blackness is global. Africans understand what white people think of them because there are people alive who remember colonial governments. Black people in the US know what white people think of them because we experience it when we are out here. You know you're black the way non black and black people treat you.

Blackness is largely dependent on skin tone and overall lineage. Who is considered black has become so diluted that we are in a situation where people like Rachel Dolezal can infiltrate and pretend to represent us because we've decided to make it a big tent thing.
 

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right now its mixed/lightskin ADOS people

brown skin ADOS people are up next, infact some of these people are already complaining about and attacking them I.E: Beyonce, Lori harvey.

Lowkey, Brown skin ADOS people are already getting their blackness questioned by these NonADOS

then soon these groups will start critiquing darkskin ADOS blacks and state how they are not dark enough etc.

And given NonADOS have more prviledge than ADOS do. Best believe if blackness came down to darkskin people(It wont, but lets say it does in this crazy alternative) best believe the people in charge like whites, Nonados will hire the NonADOS person over the Black american

How do you even come to these conclusions, lol at Non Ados questioning brown skinned Ados peoples ‘blackness’ where is that?

And are you stupid enough to believe every non ados black person is dark skin?
 
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