One got to go TI, Lil Wayne, DMX, Redman
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and i like TIP to. but he has to .......since lil weezy had the classics with the hot boys before he even did his solo career. cant live with out that either. if i never heard a tip album. i would be ok.
redman should never be anyone's off the island vote. NEVER. busta admitted he pretty much borrowed red's extra personas style from him. so you get rid of red, there goes busta in his prime too.
no redman means no def squad. they held us down.
No redman means, no Meth and Red albums. no how high. non of that.
awful logic.
its not about who's the biggest superstar. or pop star.
its who's music you could go without.
you do realize in the beginning outkast first album wasnt getting that love it deserved until everyone heard it. like say Dre's Chronic was during that same time frame.
but if you ask me to vote that album off. aint no way in hell i'm voting that first Outkast album off. NEVER gone happen. it would've remained a classic without the sales or the hype that came later.
Everyone in the industry and all hiphop heads know redman is dat dude. and everyone knows he has classic albums. doesnt matter if he ever blew up as a super star. he never tried to be one, never tried to make crossover hits like all the other mentioned dudes. and yet he still remained your favorite rappers favorite rapper.
there's a reason 2 pac had him on a song with him. there's a reason he rocked so hard with meth after meth was a star under the WU umbrella. no name chumps dont get those looks.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
good riddance
RIP HIP-HOP.
i remember when you would get dismissed for saying stuff like this.
His first single was actually Blow Your Mind.
Not to be nit-picky. Just saying.
AWW SHUCKY-DUCKY.
that was right on time too.
redman never rode meth.
especially when they started doing albums n movies together. redman was the main one shining, if you had to choose one.
so?
nobody even cared about sales like that back then.
meanwhile, youre listing TI trash & blatant crossover tracks as if they hold weight.
"you can do whatever youuuu like".
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bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
the way he used that krayzie bone flowRIP HIP-HOP.
i remember when you would get dismissed for saying stuff like this.
AWW SHUCKY-DUCKY.
that was right on time too.
redman never rode meth.
especially when they started doing albums n movies together. redman was the main one shining, if you had to choose one.
so?
nobody even cared about sales like that back then.
meanwhile, youre listing TI trash & blatant crossover tracks as if they hold weight.
"you can do whatever youuuu like".
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Lol,you said it was a hit,i'm saying it didnt go gold. Dont knock me for pointing out facts broRIP HIP-HOP.
i remember when you would get dismissed for saying stuff like this.
AWW SHUCKY-DUCKY.
that was right on time too.
redman never rode meth.
especially when they started doing albums n movies together. redman was the main one shining, if you had to choose one.
so?
nobody even cared about sales like that back then.
meanwhile, youre listing TI trash & blatant crossover tracks as if they hold weight.
"you can do whatever youuuu like".
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
1.I can go without red's music and so can a bunch of other people.
2. Outkast went plat in a year,which is pretty good considering red;s first few albums aint plat after 20 years.
people (except the east coast hate brigade) was fukking with kast pretty early
3. None of this means he deserves to be compared to hiphop royalty like thew other 3 in the poll.
He;s just the redman sitting next to the man sitting next to the man
the way he used that krayzie bone flow
NO WAY NO HOW.
tip & wayne are hip-hop royalty?
i get it, they were big chit for their time in the mainstream. but really tho.
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please elaborate would like to know why mc hammer or nellys(both huge commercial impact) is a bigger influence than rahkim or kool g rap who had less?
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Your reply implies commercial influence is the only and the most prominent factor in determining a rappers influence. I'm saying it's partially a factor and that aspect propels X, TI, and Wayne above Red (who's influence is not comparable to Rakim or G Rap btw) in that regard
Woah im not implying anything I was going off your quote wich implied a mainstream artist or people doing those big hit one hit wonders was more influential so I was just trying to understand how I believe more things than being on the radio make you influence creating a different style longetivity not selling out lyrics classic albums how many other mc he influences etc thats how I go by influence and sorry but I dont see wayne or t.i camparing
Waynes got no classic albums just mixtapes on other people's beats hes high was at the games weakest point and he did nothing that you talk/listen about now
T.i ha what like 1 or 2 good albums out of like 12 talk about hit and miss he has no lyrics he needs a rnb singer to get that radio play no longer looked for (if ever was) last time hes eas relevant it wasnt even about him it was him signing iggy I would like to know how wayne and t.i are more influential?
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
1.says who? He got no classics cause YOU said so? Plenty of people thought the carter 1 was a classic. The carter 3 clearly ran the game within the year it dropped. See this is why i have no interest having opinion based debates with you weirdos because you think your emotions trump basic logic. So i just stick with facts
FACT,nikkas wanna discredit wayne for having classic moments over other nikkas beats on his mixtapes,when red was basically doing the same thing by rhyming over a bunch of samples. Arent those other peoples beats? Didnt they sample another rapper for the hook on TIME FOR SOME AKSION?
nikkas mad cause wayne has a handful of mixtapes that meant more when they dropped then red's commercially marketed albums. Too bad nikka
2. nikkas think THEIR opinion is law when it comes to how many good albums T.I.P. has. But the people whom were obviously feeling tip enough to support him monetarily shouldnt matter cause "sales dont matter" lol
So brainwashed internet opinions matter but nikkas who voted for tip's greatness via consistent support don't matter?// Lol,ok silly nikka.
nikkas talking bout tip needing r&b singers for airplay as if the following didnt happen
"Bring 'Em Out"
- RIAA: Platinum [22]
- RIAA: Platinum[22]
- RIAA: Gold[22]
- RIAA: 2× Platinum[22]
- RIAA
- Platinum[22]
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(Do It)"
"No Matter What"
- RIAA: Platinum[22]
Shut yo dumb ass up and get out your feelings. Your boy had a chance to be the man but chose to be a run of the mil overrated nikka
And where are these great lyrics by red that nikkas cant compete with?
Lights, camera, cock back the hammer
(EXPLOSION!)
Straight from the land of the lost
I'ma hit you with the funk force
That makes you run your rap style back to the crack vile
Brotha
Then strike a pose like Madonna
My mom's kicked me out because I did what I want to
The original P-Funk stroke a trunk of funk
Then you saw caps cause my jaw snaps with the raw raps
So color me bad, plus color me black
For the funk that I pack, Red freak it to the funk track
(THE FUNKY FLY STUFF)
Come on and let me kick
(THE FUNKY FLY STUFF)
Just to show you where the HELL I COME FROM
I get dumb with the 1, 1-2
Check my rep, I'm a hit when I have sex
(like this)
Make you twist to the list
Of a funky brain cell when it's puffed on a spliff
And all that, the hi hat, go buy that,
Listen, look, OOPS, brother where your eyes at?
There on the floor, pick em up
While I pour a lil funk down your brain punk
Listen to my name chump
(REDMAN READY TO ROCK)
I got a glock
THEN, POW!, your body is all over the block
Tryin to step to ths, the Exorcist, kick it
I git mad wicked when the twin cocks the buscuit
And blow your head off, just for askin
"Who's the one rappin?"
(POO POW)
TIME FOR SUM ACTION
You know how many pointless shyt talking immature battle style jokish rhymes lil wayne has. nikkas talk like red was actually saying something.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
My thing is this,i hate when nikka try to pretend that these mainstream successful rappers were only successful in mainstream as if they didnt have the hood on smash. Wayne and tip were hotter in the hood than red as well as commercially.
NO WAY NO HOW.
tip & wayne are hip-hop royalty?
i get it, they were big chit for their time in the mainstream. but really tho.
I also hate when nikkas act like their favorite losers arent mainstream,because their success was limited. Red was a commercially promoted artist on a major label. Let's not forget that.
KravenMorehead™
Barrel Brothers.®
Red was birthed in an era where songs had no catchy hook to distract from how lackluster the verse was. You had no choice but to show out on every record.
The verse WAS the hook. And on top of that, when the game switched up, he rolled with the times, while maintaining the P-Funk vibe and keepin his lyrical fundamentals intact to this day.
take the chorus off of wayne, TI, X, and Red's records, then re-judge them muthafukkas. Red and X would be neck and neck. wayne would be a distant 3rd, and T.I. would barely hang.
The verse WAS the hook. And on top of that, when the game switched up, he rolled with the times, while maintaining the P-Funk vibe and keepin his lyrical fundamentals intact to this day.
take the chorus off of wayne, TI, X, and Red's records, then re-judge them muthafukkas. Red and X would be neck and neck. wayne would be a distant 3rd, and T.I. would barely hang.
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