online job applications are the WOAT

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Do those IT jobs can cover MILLIONS of unemployed/ underemployed people? Maybe a few thousand, but not millions.

If you add up how many companies are understaffed along with outsourced labor and foreigners on temporary visas it's probably a million or so jobs.
 

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If you add up how many companies are understaffed along with outsourced labor and foreigners on temporary visas it's probably a million or so jobs.

But these companies are making more money with less workers doing more and being overworked.
 

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Apply for gigs through staffing agencies. Their contacts actually speak with hiring managers and HR, so if you sell your skills and experience well to the staffing agents, they can get you interviews.
 

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Some IT jobs will have a limited short life but others will become even more important. Case in point just look at how Target got hacked because they didn't take cybersecurity seriously. Companies who cut corners when it comes to IT by outsourcing or reducing head count are playing with fire. All it takes is one hacking incident to cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

http://www.businessweek.com/article...issed-alarms-in-epic-hack-of-credit-card-data


Just wait until cyber terrorism starts popping off and the Taliban and other terrorist groups start highjacking pii from these foreign companies or force them to decrypt software with malicious viruses...A LOT of companies gonna be in deep shyt in the upcoming future with that outsourcing shyt...
 

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Online apps never worked for me. I think there's a landfill in the deepest corner of the universe with all of my applications and resumes sent and filled out online.

Every job I've gotten as an adult was through a connect and/or through my college recruitment.

My advice, if you went to college....even as an alumni, you can probably still use all of their resources in the career offices.

I went back and used them even after 5 years of graduating and it never failed.
 
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That's not true. and what are you talking about as far as "in-demand" jobs?

Basically any selective/respectable position.

Jobs like boiler room stockbroker, telemarketing etc that will hire any and everybody and in my experience are the ones checking posted resumes.
 

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smh.....spending 3 hrs to fill out some some that wont even get seen by a human....after 8 u might get a phone interview smh....whats the trick to getting jobs?
Long, detailed, redundant online applications are a candidate screening technique. The longer the application, the worse (in terms of tedium and micromanagement) the gig.

Another screening technique are endless "assessments." Those are used to find out which candidates are willing to jump through a bunch of arbitrary hoops to get a gig.

I used to sell ATS systems and conduct recruitment campaigns. I have first hand knowledge of the HR game.
 

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Just wait until cyber terrorism starts popping off and the Taliban and other terrorist groups start highjacking pii from these foreign companies or force them to decrypt software with malicious viruses...A LOT of companies gonna be in deep shyt in the upcoming future with that outsourcing shyt...

Cyber terrorism has been going on for years but the government and corporations have been downplaying it for financial reasons. I see government briefings about attacks all the time that never make the national news. If the public only knew how vulnerable the US Energy and Financial sectors were to hackers they would be shocked.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-14/electric-grid-attack-fuels-sniper-versus-hacker-debate.html
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/24/could_hackers_destroy_the_us_power_grid_partner/
 
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Long, detailed, redundant online applications are a candidate screening technique. The longer the application, the worse (in terms of tedium and micromanagement) the gig.

Another screening technique are endless "assessments." Those are used to find out which candidates are willing to jump through a bunch of arbitrary hoops to get a gig.

I used to sell ATS systems and conduct recruitment campaigns. I have first hand knowledge of the HR game.

:ohhh:

I thought that.

That they do that purposely to weed out the passive applicants.

I took it as disrespectful, in this market I'm not going to do a 60 minute application when chances are I won't even get called. Banks are notorious for this.
 

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this thread got scary when robots started popping up in posts

searching for jobs online is trash, that feel when you spend all day sending out your cv but dont get no reply back :wow: shyt will crush your soul
 

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:ohhh:

I thought that.

That they do that purposely to weed out the passive applicants.

I took it as disrespectful, in this market I'm not going to do a 60 minute application when chances are I won't even get called. Banks are notorious for this.
Well, thank shrinking HR budgets for this. Instead of hiring people that know the roles they're recruiting for a lot of employers are just using techniques that actually discourage prime candidates. The top candidates in any field don't fvck with most of these nonsense applications only the most desperate.

Then again, a lot of employers don't like "top candidates" as they're just looking for cubicle drones to man phones and update records.
 

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this thread got scary when robots started popping up in posts

searching for jobs online is trash, that feel when you spend all day sending out your cv but dont get no reply back :wow: shyt will crush your soul

You can't take it personally. Most of those applications aren't even viewed by a live person. They use software programs to weed out applications that don't have all the proper buzzwords. Or the company already has someone in mind for the position but due to regulations has to allow outside applicants.

Most HR people aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer and rarely understand the requirements of the position being filled. So they reject tons of candidates for no reason at all. I remember leaving a company once and the HR Manager asking me to help her screen resumes for my old position during my exit interview. She didn't understand my job nor the technology involved but was being asked to screen all the candidates herself.
 

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You can't take it personally. Most of those applications aren't even viewed by a live person. They use software programs to weed out applications that don't have all the proper buzzwords. Or the company already has someone in mind for the position but due to regulations has to allow outside applicants.

Most HR people aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer and rarely understand the requirements of the position being filled. So they reject tons of candidates for no reason at all. I remember leaving a company once and the HR Manager asking me to help her screen resumes for my old position during my exit interview. She didn't understand my job nor the technology involved but was being asked to screen all the candidates herself.

yeah true, i just felt angry when i was in college you know, i consider myself a good guy and when i saw guys that i knew that were idiots working nice jobs i was thinking was isn't that me, is something wrong

and thats terrible, having someone who dont know shyt trying to get people on, thats probably what use to happen to me, matter of fact it did, i remember one time i had this interview with these agency people and when the lady was interviewing me she didnt even read my application, just saw my location and number :beli: charge it to the game
 
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